Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
If a person testifies that he saw water in the desert, his testimony may be false (a mirage) but also not a lie, he did not intend to deceive.
Or more to the point around here:
Poster B: That's a lie.
Poster B: That's a lie.
It's a moderating nightmare because nuancing would allow that a post cannot be judged on its own merit, i.e. "That's a lie."
It is much more direct to simply disallow (or allow) the word "lie" and the phrase "bearing false witness" to be applied to another Freeper altogether.
Then again, under the nuancing, the magic phrase "I believe" innoculates anything else the poster says. For instance,
On the plus side of nuancing, the phrase "I believe" takes a lot of the heat out of the exchange.
If a poster says "I believe God is a rubber duck" then there is little cause for offense - humor, yes but offense, no.
Though it is a tourist attraction, it still functions as a church. Moreover, many of the pictures were of objects from later renovations and some are less than 30 years old.
God does not judge by external appearances....Gal:2:6 Man looks at the outward appearance. 1Sam 16:6 Stop judging by mere appearances. Jn 7:24
"He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to Him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire Him." Is 53:2
Christ had none of the appearance's nor trappings of royalty....nor is it necessary His church buildings require as such....especially at the expense of those in need from within the body.
Thank you.
So, is it ok by you to have Unitarians like Reggie who deny the Trinity yet say Sola SCriptura? UNitarians also deny the divinity of Christ. Are you ok with that as a manifestation of Sola Scriptura?
Certainly a claim of Sola Scriptura is just a claim. Faulty understanding is NOT the scriptures fault.
Do you blame a bike manual for someone who cant put the bike together correctly?
Do you blame the magesterium for the variations in interpretation and the poorly chatechized within the RCC?
I dont recall that Unitarians make that claim (Sola Scriptura). Maybe individuals within Unitarianism do. I was under the impression that Unitarians can believe almost anything.
I have not been reading the posts regarding your spat with Reggie and am really not interested.
Ridiculous. So we were once little school kids. No gospel was ever taught in public schools. Sunday school, yes, and bible stories (not so much verses) and parables were taught, along with songs like “Jesus loves me”. We were admonished to learn what sin was and avoid it. We were encouraged to love Jesus and be better persons. Where you get your ideas and information from is anybody’s guess.
LOL
:)
YOU HAVE A THANKLESS IMPOSSIBLE JOB HERDING US CATS. AND I’M THANKFUL TO THE MAX FOR ALL YOUR TIRELESS ANOINTED EFFORTS IN SO DOING.
Howver, This is one Proddy who is not really comfortable, nor happy about one aspect of such things that is CONTINUING ALSO RELENTLESSLY.
1. The complaints to you, the RM are what . . . 95% from RC’s about Proddys?
2. Over the years . . . and yet again in this instance . . . the boundaries, forbidden words and phrases etc. are essentially !!!!DEMANDED!!!! by the RC’s to be ADJUSTED toward the RC’s thin-skinned sensibilities.
3. They succeed in that effort over and over and over again.
4. This is, to me, a kind of INCRIMENTALLY SUCCESSFUL EFFORT TO TURN FR INTO A FORMAL DIRECTLY DIRECTED OFFICE OF THE VATICAN.
5. It’s a great standard to assert that the open threads are not for the thin-skinned. However, frankly, it appears that you rarely to never apply that standard to much of anyone—particularly to the RC’s who seemingly beg outrageously to be slapped up-side the head with that boundary line.
6. I would rather suffer persistent personal wrong than to have the boundaries unnecessarily narrowed, restricted.
7. I certainly am not in favor of Proddys continuing to be herded into a narrower and narrower branding chute at the successful manipulation and insistence of the RC’s however wittingly or unwittingly it transpires.
Wagglebee! I would have never believed you would bait and switch using shots of any other church but catholic. But it does seem there was a time where many denominations built these huge museum type churches...were they competing?
If you look at the huge modern churches these days they look like massive auditoriums....lights camera action and the show begins.
PERSONALLY,
I’D VOTE TO GIVE THE RM MORE . . . WELL YOU PROBABLY ALREADY HAVE IT, JUST DON’T EXERCISE IT . . .
MORE AUTHORITY TO DETERMINE ON THE RM’S OWN EXCELLENT FAIRNESS AND DISCERNMENT . . .
WHAT IS AND IS NOT FITTING, KOSHER, IN GOOD FAITH ETC.
THERE’S A LOT OF OUTRAGEOUS RELENTLESS HOGWASH THAT OCCURS WITHIN YOUR FAIRLY GENEROUS BOUNDARIES
that I’d like to see you have more freedom to disalow just because you discern it to be unfitting and over some Biblical/decency/whatever line of your discernment, choosing.
But that’s just me.
And I can understand how such a change in operations could make your life more troublesome instead of easier . . . not to say that of other mods.
Sigh.
Jesus.....
loves me.... this I know..... because the bible ....... tells me so.
And then he left
IMPRESSIVE.
LOVE IT.
Rome has held temporal power, more or less for over 1100 years.
I am certain it longs for the glory days when it exercised its will by force.
Thanks for posting this. I think it’s beautiful.
Not that this will convince you of anything, but in brief, devotions to Mary are understood, by their very nature (and indeed Mary’s very nature/role) to lead one to a greater appreciation of and love for Jesus. IOW, as the teaching goes, by devoting oneself to Mary, one is honoring not only her, but actually adoring her Son. This is because she gave birth to the God-Man, and thus meditating on her cannot help but lead to a more profound and deeper appreciation of Jesus.
Even if He is never mentioned in said devotions. The evidence if this is in personal experience.
unbelievable, yet God says that he prefers structures not made with human hands. He doesn't see the old beat up, diseased or ugly body. In fact Christ Himself was, per the bible, not much to look at
I did nothing of the sort. Comments were made about statues, candles, etc. and I responded with pictures, it's not my fault if some reached the wrong conclusions.
But it does seem there was a time where many denominations built these huge museum type churches...were they competing?
I think you will find that all Christian churches are typically as large as the congregation needs and can afford.
If you look at the huge modern churches these days they look like massive auditoriums....lights camera action and the show begins.
I agree, most modern churches (both Catholic and Protestant) are eyesores.
Where 2 or 3 are gathered together in my name there I am..... God could care less where you gather
I agree with Quix’s post and I’ll add adding restrictions on an open thread, IMHO, is playing into the left’s agenda of PC.
PC. Where the truth cannot be spoken and everyone must fall into alignment. Conservatism has no place for PC.
If one is thin skin and need restrictions/protection, they aren’t ready for battle. They have no place here, IMHO. There are caucus threads that would suit them better.
For the ‘Don’t matter where ya gather’ crowd - ask if they meet in outhouses.
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