Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
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Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
And there you go, flying off into “replacement theology” all by your lonesome.
Some folks are best advised to treat their mind like a bad neighborhood. Never go there alone.
A little learning is a dangerous thing;
Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring.
That's basically at the root of it. Either it's man and to be hated or God and to be worshiped. And any picture or statute can be the target of worship - because there's nothing in between. Veneration = worship because "honor" is neither hate nor worship - inconceivable.
always at the Catholic Church
Some folk's religion is all about being against something, not what they are for. It's a unity in hate, very far from what Jesus prayed for in the garden before His passion.
Bearing false witness again.
Oh, please! Take a course or something!
Oh, and turning the question to the other adherents to sola scriptura — would you, MetMom, Wmfights, Dr. Eck, accept Unitarians as your sola-scriptura Protestant brethern? Especially considering that they deny the Trinity?
Look up the Incarnation, and how it changed the world!
THAT’S
INCREDIBLY THOROUGHLY, TERMINALLY WRONG
AGAIN!
As C.S. Lewis expresses, at the Incarnation, all of Israel had "sharpened" to a young Jewish girl at her prayers.
Another example of the reductionism, minimalism, etc. in Protestantism. The idea of what the Incarnation means in the context of OT "images" of God is lost, just not minimal enough. Along with the difference between Icon and Idol, Beauty being from God and of God, etc. etc.
There is a strong minimalism as in: "is this necessary?" rather than abundance of life as Jesus taught. And there's a very real dualism: physical=evil...
It was the Resurrection that changed it. As I understand it, the early still Jewish Christians continued to observe the Sabbath (the seventh day), but the also celebrated the "eighth" day -- the first day of the new beginning.
NONSENSE.
Not where we Proddys are coming from at all.
Do you speak for all Proddys? Who do you consider Proddy’s and not?
Do the Proddys you speak for know the difference between an icon and an idol? Between worship and veneration?
OF COURSE I DON’T SPEAK FOR ALL PRODDYS.
I DON’T EVEN KNOW EXACTLY AND PRECISELY WHO I SPECIFICALLY SPEAK FOR WHEN I USE THAT PHRASE. I JUST KNOW THAT MOST OF MY GROUP OF CONSULTANTS WOULD LIKELY AGREE WITH MOST OF SUCH STATEMENTS WHEN I USE SUCH PHRASES. AND, THEY HAVE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY OF CORRECTING ME.
WEASEL WORDS YET AGAIN.
Then "we Proddys" is not accurate.
I DON’T EVEN KNOW EXACTLY AND PRECISELY WHO I SPECIFICALLY SPEAK FOR WHEN I USE THAT PHRASE
Okie doke.
DEPENDS ON how one construes such phrases and realities.
Perhaps the rest of the Proddys will speak to these issues.
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