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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

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To: caww

++++++This may sound off base but dang it some of these writings make one think the attraction to Mary went beyond religious...and filled some other need in the life of these people....whatever it is it is not only worship but more as obsession.. and that is an understatement. Furthermore how some can even imagine that God accepts this as it clearly dethrones Christ. Just appauling in my book....
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I believe this whole Mary thing started to attract the pagans that always had a goddess.. teaching like “Mary Queen of Heaven” tend to bear that out

This UNOFFICIAL web site shows how far this goes with some..let in a little leaven and the whole loaf is leavened

http://www.mother-god.com/goddess-mother-mary.html


2,021 posted on 09/07/2010 3:53:47 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: 1000 silverlings; Legatus
You might want to read up on the history of the Jews in Spain.

Haven't you heard? The Spanish Inquisition wasn't anywhere near as bad as the folks who went through it wrote about.

The now confirmed death toll of the Spanish Inquisition is:

8...

...and 1 dog.

...and one donkey, which, if one is to be fair, was not a donkey at all, but more of a burro.

; )

2,022 posted on 09/07/2010 4:01:46 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: Cronos; metmom; Iscool
Ha ha — Iscool and RnMomof9 are hardly ex-Catholic, any more than you are the queen of Zululand.

Gee you can not even get my name right..RNMOM OF 7

Good Catholic girls had lots of babies..

Baptized at Blessed Trinity, Buffalo NY ...now closed in "consolidation" ..Catholic grade, high and college

Active in Cursillo Womens retreats , Kairos Prison ministry , liturgy planning, CCD instruction , lectoring etc..Hey even made a marriage encounter

Then God saved me ...praise the Lord for His mercy and grace to one as lost as I

2,023 posted on 09/07/2010 4:06:48 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: metmom
Thanks for the ping. I have found that we will only be dismissed as "failed", "poorly catechized", "fallen", "lapsed", "out of communion" or "bigoted anti" Catholics. Our experience, knowledge, feelings and thoughts hold no weight for those who believe they alone hold the keys to eternal life through their very own religious dogmas. I will not let them stop me, though, from proclaiming the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

It is particulary telling that every excuse in the book is thrown at anything that is revealed to show they are and have been wrong about a great many things through the centuries. When Jesus said he would keep his church from error, he was not speaking of a manmade religion but of the true, Spirit-led body of Christ - the one he has redeemed from all nations, tongues and peoples.

Revelation 7:9-10
After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

2,024 posted on 09/07/2010 4:16:35 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: metmom; maryz
It’s the same beliefs that you guys call error. There’s too much similarity to be coincidental.

You are so right...I know what I was taught in my many years as a student in the Catholic schools, and the years I worked retreats and taught CCD.

They have simply dumbed down the doctrine for the younger generation..

2,025 posted on 09/07/2010 4:16:44 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: roamer_1
The Spanish Inquisition wasn't anywhere near as bad as the folks who went through it wrote about.

Well it wasn't. Here, I'll provide an updated quote for people who are keeping track of these things:

What the Catholic Church needs today is an Inquisition. It can start with me.

It would certainly help you guys out too, there wouldn't be any question about what exactly the Catholic Church teaches or who could speak about what Catholic doctrine means.

We can leave out the torture this time around, just "Do you claim to be Catholic?", "Do you deny X?" and/or "Do you profess Y?" and depending on the answer "Well then stop calling yourself a Catholic".

Something more like:

"Talk! Will you talk!"

"But it hurts!"

"Well, loosen it up a bit, will you? Fine..."

‘Cause that's what it would be. "Tea and cake or death? Tea and cake or death? Tea and cake or death!"

The American justice system could learn a few things from reforms of Torquemada. I especially like the idea that the accused could make a list of his enemies and nobody on that list could offer evidence against him.

2,026 posted on 09/07/2010 4:27:39 PM PDT by Legatus (From the desire of being esteemed, Deliver me, Jesus.)
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To: metmom

It wasn’t just me who was *poorly catechized* because there are scads of Catholics in the area in which I grew up who believed the same things.

And there are plenty of ex-Catholic FReepers who, unless they grew up in the same area I did, strangely believe the same what FRoman Catholics call errors.

You’d reasonably expect that if it were a result of being poorly catechized, that different areas and parishes would have different errors taught, but across the board, there are the same beliefs which all former Catholics recognize as being taught by the Roman Catholic church that FRoman Catholics say are not Catholic doctrine.

It’s the same beliefs that you guys call error. There’s too much similarity to be coincidental.


INDEED TO THE MAX.

HOWEVER, as we’ve seen relentlessly on FR, RC’s and logic have no great affinity for one another . . . after all, who needs logic when one has

THE VATICAN ALICE IN WONDERLAND SCHOOL OF THEOLOGY AND REALITY MANGLING

as the model?


2,027 posted on 09/07/2010 4:42:04 PM PDT by Quix (C Bosses plans: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Iscool

HaHaHa...A Spirit filled Christian won’t embrace that book, ever...


INDEED TO THE MAX.


2,028 posted on 09/07/2010 4:43:21 PM PDT by Quix (C Bosses plans: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: 1000 silverlings

Blah blah blah. Scratch any of us and our ancestors were killed by another group of ancestors over something. The english killed the french,the french the english, both shot the Indians, Catholics set the Jews on fire, in the American civil war, the north killed the south and vice versa. And that’s just my family. Get over it


INDEED!

SHEESH.


2,029 posted on 09/07/2010 4:45:04 PM PDT by Quix (C Bosses plans: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Legatus

Nice to see you still at least mostly rational about such! LOL.


2,030 posted on 09/07/2010 4:46:34 PM PDT by Quix (C Bosses plans: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: metmom

Another endorsement of that unscriptural nonsense I see.

Since virtually nothing about Mary that was printed in that book is to be found in Scripture, we can only conclude that it is based on the RCC tradition which the Catholic church holds to be of equal standing with Scripture.

Since the book has the nihil obstat and imprimatur, which means that it contains nothing contrary to faith or morals, the only logical conclusion to be made is that that book is an accurate reflection of the teachings by Tradition of the Roman Catholic church.

Now, considering that it teaches things that are either not found in Scripture, or are in direct contradiction to the clear teachings of Scripture, I’d say the Catholic church has a problem on it’s hands.

Does it endorse a book full of lies and false teachings and idolatry? Or does it renounce the book and go back to the clear teachings of the Bible that it claims to have written?

Judging by the Imprimatur, I’d say the decision have been made.


ABSOLUTELY INDEED.


2,031 posted on 09/07/2010 4:48:22 PM PDT by Quix (C Bosses plans: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: OLD REGGIE

GUFFAWS.


2,032 posted on 09/07/2010 4:49:20 PM PDT by Quix (C Bosses plans: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Lies. Despicable, grace-denying, Holy Spirit-nullifying lies.

Lots more where that came from.

Pity.


INDEED.


2,033 posted on 09/07/2010 4:50:40 PM PDT by Quix (C Bosses plans: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: 1000 silverlings

Exactly...


2,034 posted on 09/07/2010 4:51:20 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: caww
This may sound off base but dang it some of these writings make one think the attraction to Mary went beyond religious...and filled some other need in the life of these people....whatever it is it is not only worship but more AN obsession.. and that is an understatement. Furthermore how some can even imagine that God accepts this as it clearly dethrones Christ. Just appauling in my book.

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ABSOLUTELY INDEED.

2,035 posted on 09/07/2010 4:53:09 PM PDT by Quix (C Bosses plans: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: roamer_1

AND ONE VERY BAD OR LYING ACCOUNTANT.


2,036 posted on 09/07/2010 4:54:32 PM PDT by Quix (C Bosses plans: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: RnMomof7

Valiant effort.

However, as we’ve seen, they seem to have no interest in THE TRUTH about much of anything.


2,037 posted on 09/07/2010 4:55:31 PM PDT by Quix (C Bosses plans: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Natural Law
Those ministered to by Mother Teresa did not have to profess their faith to you, me, or even her. They only need confess that they felt and returned the love when they stand before their maker.

That might be debatable, if you could somehow get all the bibles in the world into a nuclear blast...But as long as one Book of God exists, it proves you wrong...

The Church teaches:

What your church teaches is irrelevant to the truth of the scriptures...

2,038 posted on 09/07/2010 4:57:16 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: RnMomof7; Cronos; metmom; Iscool
Then God saved me ...praise the Lord for His mercy and grace to one as lost as I

Praise the Lord, that's all that matters.

How long was it before you knew The Gospel?

2,039 posted on 09/07/2010 4:58:06 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: RnMomof7

Well I viewed that site...what can I say except Mary seems to attach herself to all cultic practices in one form or another....Also did a little History...does appear in the dark ages idols were a huge part of the catholic church..brought in to attract the layperson who was steeped in various occult activities of that day...otherwise the church had nothing to offer to maintain their political power and keep the coins filling their cofferes.

I do believe we are heading for a huge push of eastern religions in this country...happening already...not to mention just read on a thread the Hartford Mayor has now invited Islamic Imans to pray before their session begins....even though they never prayed before a meeting in the past...go figure...leave a void something else will always fill it and it will never ever be what you thought .


2,040 posted on 09/07/2010 5:00:09 PM PDT by caww
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