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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


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To: netmilsmom

From Blessed Fulton Sheen...

His natures were fastening upon her to make her a co-Redemptrix under His causality: His human nature in the physical loss, His Divine nature in the Dark Night of her soul. In the Annunciation she asks a question of an Angel: “How shall this be, seeing I know not man?” Now she addresses the God-Man Himself, calling Him “Son” and asking Him to explain and to justify Himself for what He has done. Here was a supreme consciousness that she was the Mother of God. There is always a great familiarity with God whenever there is great sanctity, and that familiarity is greater in sorrow than in joy. Saints favored by revelation from Our Lord picture Him as saying that this dolor cost Him as much suffering as any other sorrow of His life: in this, as in all other cases, He ran the Sword into His Sacred Heart before thrusting it into her Immaculate Heart, that He Himself might know the sorrow first. The grief that Our Lord would feel on leaving His Mother after the three hours on the Cross was here felt in anticipation during the three days’ loss. Those who sin without having the faith never feel the anxiety of those who sin with the faith. To have God, then lose Him, was Mary’s edge of the sword; to be God, and hide from those who would never leave Him, was Our Lord’s edge of the sword. Both felt the effects of sin in different ways: she felt the darkness of losing God; He felt the darkness of being lost. If her sorrow was a hell, His was the agony of making it. The bitterness of death is in her soul; the sadness of inflicting it is in His!

As she became the Refuge of Sinners by knowing what it is to lose God and then find Him, so He became the Redeemer of sinners by knowing the deliberateness, the willfulness, the resoluteness of those who wound the ones they love! She felt the creature losing the Creator; He felt the Creator losing the creature. Mary lost Jesus only in mystical darkness of the soul, not in the moral blackness of an evil heart. Her loss was a veiling of His face, not a flight. But she does teach us that, when we lose God, we must not wait for Him to come back. We must go out in search of Him; and, to the joy of every sinner, she knows where He can be found!


181 posted on 08/27/2010 9:15:53 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
He executed Fausta, his wife, some years earlier, by locking her in an overheated bath. They think she had been conspiring against the Emperor with his son, Crispus, whose head he had cut off. You might be thinking of his mother, Saint Helena, former concubine of the Emperor Constantius I. She died seven years before her son.

Helena was living when Constantine executed his son, Crispus, in 326. Constantine later renamed a city, Helenopolis, in honor of his mother and was with her when she died in 330, at about the age of 80.

This is according to "Church History" by Church Father Socrates Scholasticus and "Life of Constantine" by Church Father Eusebius Pamphili, Bishop of Caesarea.

182 posted on 08/27/2010 9:17:59 PM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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To: narses
Below are the examples
of exalting other deities.
They are real.
They are serious.
They are owned,
operated in,
manifested in,
heart-felt wallowed in
by millions of Roman Catholics around the world.
Pretending otherwise does not change the facts.
White washing it with magicsterical diplospeak
doesn't change the facts.
Rationalizing it with 101 weasel words
doesn't change the facts.
.
.
.
the FACTS are easy enough to see below
for anyone with
more discernment than a gnat's.
.
.
.
Those reading this with any consciousness above comotose
no longer have any excuse.
.
.
.
Holy Spirit will be nudging, urging, forsaking of all such
--ALL HINT OF SUCH--
IGNORING HIS LEADING, NUDGING, URGING
in such matters can be spiritually deadly.
Very spiritually deadly.
.
.
.
ONCE AGAIN,
just a small part of
THE EVIDENCE: .
.
.

Here's the title:

http://www.amazon.com/Ten-Meditations-Mysteries-Rosary-Ferraro/dp/0819801577/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1272938246&sr=1-2

And it carries the official sanctions of:

ni•hil ob•stat
n.
1. Roman Catholic Church An attestation by a church censor that a book contains nothing damaging to faith or morals.
2. Official approval, especially of an artistic work.

WITH RICHARD CARDINAL CUSHING’S IMPRIMATUR

Let me track down the brief portion of quotes upthread . . .

Here they are:

However, as we've seen through a variety of sources--a pile of them in Ferraro's manual about the Rosary--the Roman Catholic et al/Vatican Edifice disagrees with a lot of the claims of RC's hereon to the contrary.

p.32
.
[Quixicated emphases below]
Mary is crowned Queen of heaven and earth, dispenser of all graces . . .

p32
4 - She became Queen of Purgatory, where she exercises her power as mediatrix in behalf of these suffering souls.

5 - She became Queen of us sinners, to assist us through the dangers of this life and to help us in difficulties.

6 - She became the ruler of hell, that trembles at her slightest gaze and is defeated by her power.

"Just as a rock extracted from earth will precipitate into the abyss, so will man, left without Mary's help, quickly slide toward hell." --Richard of St Victor

p37
Sacred Heart of Jesus, Thy kingdom come; Thy kingdom come through Mary! --Partial Indulgence

p41
"Mary is the tree of life to those who grasp her, and he is happy who hold her fast." --Prov. 3:18

p43
1 - "Hail Mary, beloved daughter of the Father, Mother of the Divine Son, Spouse of the Holy Spirit, complement of the most august Trinity!"

p45
6 - To her was granted grace greater than that conferred upon all others, 'that she might vanquish sin in every respect.'
.
[Qx: I guess Christ's vanquishing sin was unnecessary--or ineffectual without Mary's assistance?]

p46
7 - "Mary is the dawn of God because, just as the dawn marks the end of darkness and the beginning of day, so Mary indicates the end of vices and the beginning of virtue."
.
[Qx: I guess Christ's conquering on The Cross and HIS conquering trip to hell were unncessary?]

9 - God loved Mary so much that He gave her the keys to His heart. 'No one can go to God without Mary drawing him.'
.
[Qx: I guess Holy Spirit has been relegated to a 'Walter Mitty' role as spouse of Mary? That's SOME POWER to cancel & take over HOLY SPIRIT'S role to draw men to God!]

p47
4 - "Mary, trusting in the word of the angel, destroyed the sin Eve committed by trusting in the serpent.'
.
[Qx: Evidently, she beat Christ to the job of vanquishing sin!]

5 - "She desired the safety of everyone, went in search of it, and obtained it; it was also through her that this salvation was wrought."
.
[QX: What an unnecessary waste of precious Blood and suffering on THE CROSS!!!/sar]

p47
10 - "As Noah's Ark saved all the animals that entered it, so Mary saves all the souls that entrust themselves to her care."

p50
8 - "If she were not so holy as she is, how could God appoint her to be the ladder of Paradise, the advocate of the world, meatrix between HIm and us?"

p50
4 - "By becoming Mother of God, Mary belongs to the order of hypostatic union; hence she participates IN the infinite sanctity of God."

183 posted on 08/27/2010 9:19:32 PM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix


184 posted on 08/27/2010 9:20:03 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: narses
Below are the examples
of exalting other deities.
They are real.
They are serious.
They are owned,
operated in,
manifested in,
heart-felt wallowed in
by millions of Roman Catholics around the world.
Pretending otherwise does not change the facts.
White washing it with magicsterical diplospeak
doesn't change the facts.
Rationalizing it with 101 weasel words
doesn't change the facts.
.
.
.
the FACTS are easy enough to see below
for anyone with
more discernment than a gnat's.
.
.
.
Those reading this with any consciousness above comotose
no longer have any excuse.
.
.
.
Holy Spirit will be nudging, urging, forsaking of all such
--ALL HINT OF SUCH--
IGNORING HIS LEADING, NUDGING, URGING
in such matters can be spiritually deadly.
Very spiritually deadly.
.
.
.
ONCE AGAIN,
just a small part of
THE EVIDENCE: .
.
.

Here's the title:

http://www.amazon.com/Ten-Meditations-Mysteries-Rosary-Ferraro/dp/0819801577/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1272938246&sr=1-2

And it carries the official sanctions of:

ni•hil ob•stat
n.
1. Roman Catholic Church An attestation by a church censor that a book contains nothing damaging to faith or morals.
2. Official approval, especially of an artistic work.

WITH RICHARD CARDINAL CUSHING’S IMPRIMATUR

Let me track down the brief portion of quotes upthread . . .

Here they are:

However, as we've seen through a variety of sources--a pile of them in Ferraro's manual about the Rosary--the Roman Catholic et al/Vatican Edifice disagrees with a lot of the claims of RC's hereon to the contrary.

p.32
.
[Quixicated emphases below]
Mary is crowned Queen of heaven and earth, dispenser of all graces . . .

p32
4 - She became Queen of Purgatory, where she exercises her power as mediatrix in behalf of these suffering souls.

5 - She became Queen of us sinners, to assist us through the dangers of this life and to help us in difficulties.

6 - She became the ruler of hell, that trembles at her slightest gaze and is defeated by her power.

"Just as a rock extracted from earth will precipitate into the abyss, so will man, left without Mary's help, quickly slide toward hell." --Richard of St Victor

p37
Sacred Heart of Jesus, Thy kingdom come; Thy kingdom come through Mary! --Partial Indulgence

p41
"Mary is the tree of life to those who grasp her, and he is happy who hold her fast." --Prov. 3:18

p43
1 - "Hail Mary, beloved daughter of the Father, Mother of the Divine Son, Spouse of the Holy Spirit, complement of the most august Trinity!"

p45
6 - To her was granted grace greater than that conferred upon all others, 'that she might vanquish sin in every respect.'
.
[Qx: I guess Christ's vanquishing sin was unnecessary--or ineffectual without Mary's assistance?]

p46
7 - "Mary is the dawn of God because, just as the dawn marks the end of darkness and the beginning of day, so Mary indicates the end of vices and the beginning of virtue."
.
[Qx: I guess Christ's conquering on The Cross and HIS conquering trip to hell were unncessary?]

9 - God loved Mary so much that He gave her the keys to His heart. 'No one can go to God without Mary drawing him.'
.
[Qx: I guess Holy Spirit has been relegated to a 'Walter Mitty' role as spouse of Mary? That's SOME POWER to cancel & take over HOLY SPIRIT'S role to draw men to God!]

p47
4 - "Mary, trusting in the word of the angel, destroyed the sin Eve committed by trusting in the serpent.'
.
[Qx: Evidently, she beat Christ to the job of vanquishing sin!]

5 - "She desired the safety of everyone, went in search of it, and obtained it; it was also through her that this salvation was wrought."
.
[QX: What an unnecessary waste of precious Blood and suffering on THE CROSS!!!/sar]

p47
10 - "As Noah's Ark saved all the animals that entered it, so Mary saves all the souls that entrust themselves to her care."

p50
8 - "If she were not so holy as she is, how could God appoint her to be the ladder of Paradise, the advocate of the world, meatrix between HIm and us?"

p50
4 - "By becoming Mother of God, Mary belongs to the order of hypostatic union; hence she participates IN the infinite sanctity of God."

185 posted on 08/27/2010 9:20:26 PM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: stfassisi

You can show me a ton of people’s opinions. They’re cool. It’s like Lourdes or Fatima. We are allowed to believe them or not.

Got the quote from the CCC or the Vatican.va site with the word Co-redemptrix in it?


186 posted on 08/27/2010 9:21:04 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: narses

Why are paintings of Mary always showing her with blond hair? She was Jewish. same with Jesus. WHy the blond hair?


187 posted on 08/27/2010 9:21:55 PM PDT by smvoice (smvoice- formally known as small voice in the wilderness. Easier on the typing!)
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To: Quix

LOL!
*smile!*


188 posted on 08/27/2010 9:22:05 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: Quix

189 posted on 08/27/2010 9:23:09 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: smvoice

See 189


190 posted on 08/27/2010 9:23:37 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: big'ol_freeper

big ol, yu do the research & when ya got it all figured out, give me my marching orders. At half-time, of course.


191 posted on 08/27/2010 9:24:57 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT ("pray without ceasing" - Paul of Tarsus)
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To: smvoice


193 posted on 08/27/2010 9:26:14 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Dr. Eck,
glad to hear you’re not an international Marxist.


194 posted on 08/27/2010 9:33:18 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT ("pray without ceasing" - Paul of Tarsus)
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To: narses

It’s Friday night and the Kluxers are bored.
Late summer fire season, can’t even have a cross burning.
Time to spout anti-Catholic lies on the internet.


195 posted on 08/27/2010 9:33:43 PM PDT by rogator
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To: netmilsmom

“”Got the quote from the CCC or the Vatican.va site with the word Co-redemptrix in it?””

From Vatican
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/audiences/1997/documents/hf_jp-ii_aud_09041997_en.html

Are you going to tell me that co-operator in the Redemption is something different than Co-redemptrix?


196 posted on 08/27/2010 9:39:10 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi
Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix.

What do you suppose Mediatrix,helper etc.. means in co operation with Grace?

It means the way that Mary mediated for the stewards during the Wedding at Cana. She secured the miracle from Jesus for the manufacture of wine so that the stewards would not lose face by the interruption of festivities.

Like the stewards, Catholics go to Mary with their problems because Scripture (and experience) demonstrates that Jesus will grant miracles upon her request.

197 posted on 08/27/2010 9:40:05 PM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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To: narses; betty boop; Mad Dawg; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; ...
PRAISE GOD
FOR THE VAST
MISSIONARY WORK
THAT
AIMEE SEMPLE MCPHERSON
BEGAN FOR HER LORD JESUS!

"THEREFORE,
IF ANYONE IS IN CHRIST,
HE IS
A
NEW CREATION;
THE OLD HAS GONE,
THE NEW
HAS COME.”

We were asked to return to minister in the city of Bucaramanga, where we had been so severely persecuted some years before. The people had experienced a change of heart, and our home was soon flooded with medical students, business owners, priests, and people of every walk in life—people who wanted to know about Jesus. A [Roman Catholic] nun from the elite girl’s school was healed of cancer and began telling her students. They were saved, and when their parents began to investigate, they too received Jesus.

A young medical student asked us to speak at a celebration of Pentecost at his school. Evangelicals were to give messages on “God is Love.” I could not believe what I saw. There were no idols in the chapel. The priests and nuns held Bibles and chanted, “Jesus is alive, He lives in me.”

A young priest—in a checked sport shirt—led us in singing “There is Power In The Blood.” A beautiful young nun stood, tears streaming down her face, as she praised God in her heavenly language. When the students had opportunity to ask questions, God gave us wisdom to answer them.

Those who had once spit at us and paraded against us came and hugged me and said, “Thank you for coming. We love and appreciate you.” Over the years we prayed many times for these people and saw God restore marriages, bless business and bring many of their friends to Jesu. God is so good!

Vierginia Martin
Former [Foursquare] Missionary to Bolivian and Columbia

Lord, I pray that my community would experience a change of heart also, and that your Holy Spirit would draw hearts to you and that many would be saved … .
Page
—254 —

From:
FROM THE FIELD:
365 Missionary Stories
To Encourage Your Daily Walk
By
FOURSQUARE MISSIONS INTERNATIONAL
ICFG
INTERNATIONAL CHURCH of the FOURSQUARE GOSPEL

198 posted on 08/27/2010 9:40:53 PM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: netmilsmom

That third image, Our Lady of Guadalupe, was truly the result of a miracle and not the work of human hands (nor UFO’s).


199 posted on 08/27/2010 9:42:58 PM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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To: smvoice
Mary being the Co-Redemptrix, is not “Official Vatican Dogma

It's not. There's a movement that seeks to have it defined as dogma, but it has not been defined as such and it's most unlikely that it will be.

Although the Scriptures are crystal clear that Mary cooperated in the Redemption in a unique way, and that's all "co-Redemptrix" means. I suppose if we really wanted to get rid of it, we could just edit out the first chapter of Luke, and that uncomfortable stuff in Hebrews about Jesus being "born of a woman", etc.

200 posted on 08/27/2010 9:45:54 PM PDT by Campion
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