Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
I am frankly surprised that other anti-Catholics are keeping Dr. E's lack of credibility in the forefront. I may have become the subject of this thread, (in violation of forum rules)but it's not my fault that I don't believe her.
You’re just concerned because I don’t always check when I hit CTRL-V.
No. I have no idea what happened.
The rest of my post was okay though, I think, if neither clear, plain, not unambiguous.
ABSOLUTELY INDEED.
Mad Dawg wrote:
“I never get a straight answer to this: When you drive from DC to NY do you take I-95 or do you take a car?”
OK. I’ll bite. But since I’ve never seen this question before, and have never had the opportunity to give a straight or any other kind of answer to it, would you be kind enough to explain your analogy to me? Who knows, you might get a straight answer.
LOLOL!
But those sciences have good cause for that approach since the historical record is spotty at best and little can be precisely reconstructed under laboratory conditions. So as long as the evidence can be fit into the blueprint, without kluging observations or ignoring contrary evidence, there is confidence in the blueprint itself.
Other sciences, in particular physics and chemistry, work from the evidence to form theories which are subjected to rigorous tests (or additional observations.) The most reliable theories have endured many attempts to falsify them.
In the latter approach to investigations, the vast body of scientific observations and theological, philosophical, cultural and historical information content is "all on the table" for the thinker/theorists' consideration in developing his hypothesis. But in the former approach, the information must be drastically filtered down to only those pieces which are relevant to the blueprint.
The atheist's reality, his filled-in blueprint, is an extreme reduction, a subset of the body of information because any material that mentions God is excluded a priori.
Conversely, in the latter approach, the greater the scope of the investigation the more likely God will be mentioned in the resulting manuscript, even if the investigator is a theoretical physicist.
Bless you!
I scarcely know what I mean. But the analogy is about how motive power and route do not exclude one another. God and His grace are the, so to speak, motive power or agent. The route is good works
He carries us through them, but we must go through them. just as we go through Newark to reach Manhattan.
I’ll be interested in your thoughts
Yes, some of us still actually shell out a few bucks for a book.
You should try it sometime.
If Natural Law said he’d just bought a hardcopy of Calvin’s Institutes I’d call for a mental health professional.
Roman Catholic apologists have said practically the same thing about the Bible.
Their loss.
Maybe that's why RC apologists are so ill-informed. They only read Rome's propaganda. They are ignorant of the alternate, better point of view.
"Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail" -- Isaiah 34:16
She added: “I am told God loves me, and yet the reality of the darkness and coldness and emptiness is so great that nothing touches my soul. Did I make a mistake in surrendering blindly to the Call of the Sacred Heart?"Lord, my God, you have thrown [me] away as unwanted - unloved,” she wrote in one missive. “I call, I cling, I want, and there is no one to answer, no, no one. Alone. Where is my faith? even deep down right in there is nothing. I have no faith. I dare not utter the words and thoughts that crowd in my heart.”
Maybe Mother Teresa would have been better off suffering some of that "sin of presumption" which afflicts us Bible-believing Christians.
By the grace of God.
Roman Catholics believe Mary is a co-redeemer.
Just look at all those Roman Catholic comments high-fiving Mary as their "co-redemptrix."
Blasphemy. Free from it.
Strange how Roman Catholics ignore that fact.
Stranger still is that Rome has the audacity to speak of one death when it slaughtered tens of thousands of Huguenot men, women and children as they slept in their beds during the St. Batholomew's Day Massacre.
Monty Python was wrong. We all expect an Inquisition from Rome.
It's what Rome does best.
After his arrest and interrogation Servetus managed to escape from the prison. On his way, perhaps, to northern Italy where, he believed, there were people receptive to his writings, he made his way across the border to Geneva. Recognized at a Geneva church service, he was arrested and tried for heresy by Protestant authorities.remember I said "You mean how the RavingCalvinists with Calvin burnt Michael Servetus at the stake, right? It was dangerous to have Calvin or Cromwell at their heights of power, you know..."
Aside: Geneva = Calvin's territory
The secular officials were unable to establish that Servetus was an immoral disturber of the public peace. Nevertheless, he made damaging theological statements in the course of a written debate with Calvin. The Council of Geneva, after receiving the advice of churches in four other Swiss cities, convicted Servetus of antitrinitarianism and opposition to child baptism. Calvin asked that Servetus be mercifully beheaded. The Council insisted he should be burned at the stake.
Many Protestants approved the Genevan sentence. Others, especially in Basel, were not so sure that heretics ought to be put to death. In answer to critics, Calvin quickly put together and published, in 1554, a justification, Defensio orthodoxae fidei, contra prodigiosos errores Michaelis Serveti Hispani (Defense of Orthodox Faith against the Prodigious Errors of the Spaniard Michael Servetus). He argued that to spare Servetus would have been to endanger the souls of many. In the same year Calvin was answered by Sebastian Castellio, in Contra libellum Calvini (Against Calvin's Booklet).
In 2005 three congregations withdrew from the OPC to join the Presbyterian Church in America, one of which was a rather large congregation, resulting in a net loss of members for the OPC in 2005. The membership of the OPC has remained at about 28,000 for more than two years, which is a cause of concern.so they make a lot of noise for such a small grouping and don't regard even their fellow Presbyterians well -- especially not the sub-groups that formed from them like the Bible Presbyterian C and the Evangelical Presbyterian C
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