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ELCA pastor drives ‘God talk’ initiative
United Methodist News Service ^ | 16 Auguat AD 2010 | Susan Hogan

Posted on 08/17/2010 2:00:48 PM PDT by lightman

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I’m Orthodox now, but I studied at a United Methodist seminary thirty years ago. They were big on “inclusive language” and had an alternative hymnbook called “Songs for the People of God.” It included “Come, Holy Ghost, Our Souls Inspire” which, in its traditional form, has the doxology, “Praise to Thine eternal merit, Father, Son and Holy Spirit,” which was rendered, “Praise to Thine eternal merit, Mother-Father, Holy Spirit.”

I was talking about this to a friend, who wasn’t a Christian at the time, and I asked him what was wrong with this. He said, “They’ve left out Jesus.”

So I decided to bring this up in a class one day with a female professor. My question was what would cause the hymn-revisor to render it that way, and she admitted that some people “have problems with the second person of the Trinity,” AKA Jesus.


21 posted on 08/18/2010 9:04:09 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican ("During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." --Orwell)
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And thus is the ELCA warring against those pernicious masculine pronouns: “God so loved the world that God gave God’s only Son that whosoever believes in God’s Son shall not perish but have everlasting life.”


22 posted on 08/18/2010 9:51:53 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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“God so loved the world that God gave God’s only Son that whosoever believes in God’s Son shall not perish but have everlasting life.”

“Godself so loved the world that God gave God’s only Son Child that whosoever believes in God’s Son Child shall not perish but have everlasting life.”

Fixed it--and I've seen that.

Should have included a hurl alert.

Out of that convoluted language come "theologians" who speak of the Eucharist as a "reinactment of Divine child abuse".

23 posted on 08/18/2010 3:44:00 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini)
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