To: Mad Dawg; count-your-change; betty boop
reality does not submit to the categories of mind
Precisely so, dear brother in Christ! God cannot be put under a microscope, measured with a rod, observed through a telescope.
If a person's concept of God requires that He comply with his own sense of time, space, matter/energy, physical laws and the laws of logic - then he would have a very reduced concept of God, a small 'god' of his own imagination, a false god his mortal mind could comprehend.
That "god" could not be the Creator of "all that there is" because he would have to reside within the creation itself, he would be subordinate to the (multi)universe, not the Creator of it. He would be subject to entropy among other things. He would have a beginning and an end.
He couldn't be "the" God, he'd have to be "a" god.
He couldn't be "the" Creator, he'd have to be "a" creator.
The mortal vision and mind is limited to four dimensional perception - three of space and one of time. Our ability to perceive and reason is highly restricted and I suspect, intentionally so.
Nevertheless, God will hold all of us to account for noticing that He IS "the" Creator.
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: - Romans 1:20
Man is not the measure of God.
To: Alamo-Girl; Mad Dawg; count-your-change; kosta50; Diamond; YHAOS
If a person's concept of God requires that He comply with his own sense of time, space, matter/energy, physical laws and the laws of logic then he would have a very reduced concept of God, a small 'god' of his own imagination, a false god his mortal mind could comprehend. In short, this person would know nothing about God as He IS, I AM THAT AM. Human categories of logic and reason cannot even address I AM THAT AM in His unimaginable immensity, let alone taxonomically/linguistically classify Him in ways that can be studied by the scientific method.
It is so interesting that you suggest human cognition is limited to four dimensions, "intentionally so." That is a pregnant thought....
Thank you ever so much, dearest sister in Christ for this, one-among-many-other splendid essay/posts that I read from you today!
54 posted on
08/14/2010 5:39:13 PM PDT by
betty boop
(Those who do not punish bad men are really wishing that good men be injured. — Pythagoras)
To: Alamo-Girl
If a person's concept of God requires that He comply with his own sense of time, space, matter/energy, physical laws and the laws of logic - then he would have a very reduced concept of God, a small 'god' of his own imagination, a false god his mortal mind could comprehend. An excellent insight. Any view of God which is perfectly comprehensible and non-mysterious to the human mind, is almost by that very fact wrong or at least gravely incomplete. It almost always ends up with an understanding of God that makes him little more than an idealized, perfected human being; a "superman" of sorts.
God is infinitely more than any being like that could even pretend to be.
57 posted on
08/14/2010 9:05:55 PM PDT by
Campion
To: Alamo-Girl; Mad Dawg; count-your-change; betty boop
Ok, I'm going to play devil's advocate here:
That "god" could not be the Creator of "all that there is" because he would have to reside within the creation itself, he would be subordinate to the (multi)universe, not the Creator of it. He would be subject to entropy among other things. He would have a beginning and an end. --> Hindus and Gnostics believe(d) thare there is a separate Creator God and separate other gods. For example in Hinduism, the creator God is Brahma who resides within the creation itself, wakes up in his morning and sleeps in his day (one day of Brahma being equivalent to millions of years and yugas in human terms). Brahma is also subordinate to the universe and folks can visit him, ask for boons, Brahma can also be ousted by demonic-like Asuras and fight wars and have kids. At the end, Brahma too dies.
This ties in with Jainism, an off-shoot of Hinduism that does not believe in any creator god at all and says the universe always was and all the gods are just "higher" beings still subject to predestination/karma.
Yes, this is a "then he would have a very reduced concept of God, a small 'god' of his own imagination, a false god his mortal mind could comprehend.", but the Hindu does not perceive this and would ask why the question of a Trinity of one God,
60 posted on
08/14/2010 11:20:06 PM PDT by
Cronos
(Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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