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Obama supports plan for mosque near ground zero: At Ramadan dinner president breaks his silence
The Los Angeles Times ^ | August 13, 2010 | Peter Nicholas and Julia Love

Posted on 08/13/2010 7:10:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

President Obama on Friday took a strong stand in favor of building a mosque near the site where Muslim terrorists flew airplanes into the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001, breaking his silence on a political tempest that has left the country divided.

In prepared remarks for a White House dinner celebrating Ramadan, Obama framed the issue as one of religious freedom. Muslims, like anyone else, "have the same right to practice their religion as anyone else in this country," Obama said. "That includes the right to build a place of worship and a community center on private property in Lower Manhattan, in accordance with local laws and ordinances."

The uproar over the proposed mosque has rekindled a debate over religious tolerance in a post-Sept. 11 society. Some relatives of Sept. 11 victims have come out against the mosque, as have prominent politicians. Former Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin wrote in a Twitter feed that the mosque would be an "unnecessary provocation" at a time when the collapse of the Twin Towers was "too raw, too real."

A majority doesn't want to see the mosque built, surveys show. A CNN/Opinion Research poll earlier this month showed 68% opposed plans to build the mosque, with 29% in favor. Count as part of the minority New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who recently gave a speech defending the planned Islamic center.

In a statement released Friday night, Bloomberg said: "As I said last week, this proposed mosque and community center in Lower Manhattan is as important a test of the separation of church and state as we may see in our lifetime, and I applaud President Obama's clarion defense of the freedom of religion tonight."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events; Islam; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: faisalabdulrauf; groundzeromosque; obama; obamagroundzero; palin; sarahpalin; zerogroundzero
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To: muawiyah

I’ll mosey on over and make it 11. :-)


41 posted on 08/13/2010 8:30:31 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Watching the MSM with Obama is like watching Joslyn James with Tiger Woods)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Cordoba Initiative. Establishing a capitol for the Muslim caliphate in America in remembrance of Cordoba Spain which was the capitol of the Muslim caliphate then.

FUBO!

42 posted on 08/13/2010 8:31:20 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: freethinker_for_freedom
I’m wondering how you could constitutionally prohibit building this mosque, no matter how distasteful it may be.

Listen closely. This will not be pleasant.

John Adams said, our Constitution was made ONLY for a moral people, and that it was totally unsuited to govern any other kind of people.

Muslims and Liberals are OTHER kinds of people.

The Constitution is dead.

They won. They killed it. Diluted it, pissed on it, burned it and ignore it.

The only ones still abiding by it are us, we need to stop.

This battle is lost, but there is one more to claim the spoils of the entire war.

We can win the war, but the cost is admitting we lost, forgoing the constitution, winning, and then as the Declaration says, setting forth a compact which we best believe able to protect our liberties.

The longer we play by the rules while they cheat, the less likely is any victory or hope at all.

Now I will spell it out in simple terms.

If we give in to this Mosque, because we uphold the 1st Amendment, we will LOSE those rights ourselves by their hands against us.

If we oppose this mosque, violating our 1st Amendment, we have ourselves, sacrificed it.

In the former, we are both DEAD and have lost our rights.

In the later, we have sacrificed them, that we may live and that God willing, we may write a stronger, clearer more complete compact.

Choose. Act. The war is almost over.

43 posted on 08/13/2010 8:32:56 PM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Unless the GOP Senate ruins it all...)
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To: an amused spectator

Yes, practice their religion “as anyone else in this country.”

Since when has child pedophilia and rape been allowed in the U.S.? Since when has killing the “infidels” and “blasphemers” been allowed in the U.S.?
Since when has “Sharia” been allowed in the U.S.?
Since when have “honor killings” been allowed in the U.S.?

I’d say it was allowed on Jan. 20, 2009. Capish?


44 posted on 08/13/2010 8:36:14 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s time to put up that Hirosima Memorial at Pearl Harbor.


45 posted on 08/13/2010 8:36:40 PM PDT by Waverunner
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To: muawiyah

You’re at 12...


46 posted on 08/13/2010 8:38:37 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Watching the MSM with Obama is like watching Joslyn James with Tiger Woods)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I just saw pics from tonight's Muslim dinner in the WH and I didn't see a woman in the crowd.

Apparently it's acceptable for this administration to discriminate against women.

47 posted on 08/13/2010 8:40:15 PM PDT by lonestar (Barry is furious the big spill wasn't caused by EXXON...would have nationalized it by now.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Has obama finally thrown off his sheep skin cloak to expose the wolf hiding inside?

Or will the wolf continue to hide under the sheep skin cloak, while pretending it’s the Christian thing to do to allow the mosque to be built near such sacred ground?

He hides.....


48 posted on 08/13/2010 8:42:15 PM PDT by GloriaJane (http://www.last.fm/music/Gloria+Jane)
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To: an amused spectator
Thank you ~ this is actually beyond stratospheric for the WarshPost boards.

My word do they hate everybody over there ~ you can see meltdowns in the ranks of the Leftwingtards almost every day, and Obama is plummeting in popularity by the moment.

I'd feel sorry for them, but I don't!

49 posted on 08/13/2010 8:46:53 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I just hope we’ve got it on tape....this is wonderful political capital.


50 posted on 08/13/2010 8:56:47 PM PDT by cherry
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To: libh8er

No.


51 posted on 08/13/2010 9:14:01 PM PDT by constitutiongirl ("Nietzsche was stupid and abnormal."---Leo Tolstoy)
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To: I still care
"The problem is, we’ve been talking to a man overseas who does business in the ME, and says Muslims there consider America, through Obama, claimed for Islam."

Claimed is one thing, taken over & occupied is a unicorn of a different color, don't you think? The ammo and firearms plants have been working 3 shifts, 7 days a week since 2008.

52 posted on 08/13/2010 9:26:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I don't need a newspaper to know the world's been shaved by a drunken barber.)
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To: freethinker_for_freedom

I’m wondering how you could constitutionally prohibit building this mosque, no matter how distasteful it may be

WE DID IT TO THE MORMONS....... THE Edmunds–Tucker Act

The act disincorporated both the LDS Church and the Perpetual Emigration Fund on the grounds that they fostered polygamy


53 posted on 08/13/2010 9:37:20 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/06/is-this-america-christian-activists-arrested-in-dearborn.html

“Is this America? Christian activists arrested in Dearborn just for showing up at Arab Festival”

why wasn’t barry supportive of their rights at the Dearborn Muslim fest?


54 posted on 08/13/2010 9:41:05 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Screw you Mr Obama.


55 posted on 08/13/2010 9:53:43 PM PDT by vpintheak (Love of God, Family and Country has made me an extremist.)
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To: charlie72
I am not convinced Obama will allow elections in November.

Well, he is the Emperor of America. I guess it's his call.

(rolls eyes...)

56 posted on 08/13/2010 10:23:03 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: eyedigress

It does not matter. People who pay $50 to 120 a month for sat or cable TV are sending $5 a month to CNN or MSNBC/NBC/CNBC. This is how the money is divided up. 5 networks control 99% of the cable channels. ALL of TV including the NFFL, MBL, NCAA, and NBA support Ob ama.

Anyone who pays a penny for TV is supporting Obama. The public are fools. Fox? Saudi shareholders. NYC mosque? Saudis. Obama’s election? Saudi money. Murdoch and Blair behind islamification of the UK - Saudi and ME money. Coming to america. Dead troops in Iraq and Afghan becing killed cause of intel leaked by muslim moles in “US” intel, military and govt? Back by Saudi Muslim Brotherhood.

The public has no clue.


58 posted on 08/14/2010 8:17:16 AM PDT by Frantzie (Television controls the American people/sheep)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Rosary to Halt Construction of NYC Mosque - August 15 (Catholic Caucus)

59 posted on 08/14/2010 8:47:50 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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