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"his personal cross of same-sex attraction, his desire to remain faithful to Jesus Christ and the Bible’s teaching"

That's how a Christian should look at it if he can't get rid of it or anything that pulls you away from upright moral conduct.

1 posted on 08/09/2010 6:16:28 AM PDT by GonzoII
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To: GonzoII

Good article.


2 posted on 08/09/2010 6:21:11 AM PDT by Sloth (Civil disobedience? I'm afraid only the uncivil kind is going to cut it this time.)
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bump


3 posted on 08/09/2010 6:25:00 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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IIRC, Luther himself said something like, "You can't stop the birds flying overhead, but you can keep them from building a nest in your hair."

Of course, he would have said it in German.

4 posted on 08/09/2010 6:26:37 AM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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Privately I struggle with it, but by the grace of God, I say no to it and I fight it.

We all struggle with sin. Sometimes we win and sometimes we lose, but the fight is what's important. Those on the other side who have given up and given in and claim that there is no harm in it -- they are the ones who have gone astray. This man sounds like a good man.

5 posted on 08/09/2010 6:27:59 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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We all have our crosses to bear, so to speak. He seems to be approaching it from the right perspective and is brave enough to ask for help in spite of the embarrassment and shame it brought upon him with his congregation. That’s a very admirable thing.


6 posted on 08/09/2010 6:30:52 AM PDT by Dayman
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Does not reflect well on “Lavendar.”

These people want more than acceptance. They want adulation and special status.


7 posted on 08/09/2010 6:36:39 AM PDT by sauropod (The truth shall make you free but first it will make you miserable.)
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Brock: I think the myth of our culture for the last 15 years or so has been that God makes you gay, you’re born gay, and even God won’t change that or can’t change that. And I do think that’s a myth – and I could be wrong on this, but I don’t think I am – my belief is that we are all born heterosexual, and that something early in life goes wrong.

A psychiatrist who’s worked with hundreds – if not thousands, I can’t remember what he said – but he said he’s never met one client who when he was a little boy had a close relationship with his father. Not that he couldn’t later in life. But of all the men that he’s treated for this, the big link is when they were real little, like two, three, or four years old, there was a breakdown with the same-sex parent.

Now that said, if indeed they ever find a ‘gay gene’ and it turns out to be genetic, it really still doesn’t change anything. If you believe in Original Sin, that we are all born sinners, and it all comes out in different ways in different lives, it really doesn’t change anything. There are people with criminal tendencies from birth, perhaps, but it doesn’t give them a right to rob a bank.


Homosexuality is a behaviour. The only way you know someone is a homo is to observe the act.

Good article, I wish him well.


8 posted on 08/09/2010 6:40:13 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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"A psychiatrist who’s worked with hundreds – if not thousands, I can’t remember what he said – but he said he’s never met one client who when he was a little boy had a close relationship with his father. Not that he couldn’t later in life. But of all the men that he’s treated for this, the big link is when they were real little, like two, three, or four years old, there was a breakdown with the same-sex parent."

I knew a man who had come out of the homosexual lifestyle and counseled others who were trying to leave that said exactly the same thing. Both males and females always had that damaged relationship with their fathers at an early age. It's an extremely difficult thing to overcome, possible only by complete surrender to Christ.

9 posted on 08/09/2010 6:40:15 AM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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the left is so sick...this article just shows that Christians are really not part of this world. the call upon our lives is completely different than what the world thinks and wants it to be. the world will never get it. the only thing they can propose on our behalf is that they will kill us. this article is no different in kind than what Nero did in Rome.


10 posted on 08/09/2010 6:53:11 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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This guy has it right. We may not be able to choose our tendency to sin, but we remain responsible for our behavior. God bless this pastor. I hope he is able to continue to fight sin. Looks like he is doing a better job than I (although I don’t have that particular temptation...).


11 posted on 08/09/2010 7:02:45 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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I think we all struggle with temptations of one sort or another.


12 posted on 08/09/2010 7:06:57 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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Thanks for this great post. It is so encouraging to hear a person of the cloth speak of their 'burden' of homosexual tendencies and continue the good struggle, with the help of God and God's helpers.

To recognize their problem seems to be like in AA where that is their first step. Now, with society saying that it is great to have an alternate life style, and to just run with it, seems to be the BIG problem. As long as people struggled with this and followed biblical teaching, it wasn't such an epidemic.

The recovery in AA requires practicing all of the steps!

13 posted on 08/09/2010 7:07:57 AM PDT by mckenzie7 (Democrats = Trough Sloppers!)
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"Yes, I Struggle with Same-Sex Attraction"

It would be such a curse to be born with deviant sexual urges that you had to fight, especially if they strayed into criminal behavior if acted upon. I'm so grateful that all my sexual proclivities are not only perfectly normal and healthy, but downright admirable.

15 posted on 08/09/2010 7:22:02 AM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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God bless this man.


16 posted on 08/09/2010 7:25:20 AM PDT by Luke21
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The homosexual groups are hammering on him for “hypocrisy.” However it is not hypocritical to have a tendency and resist it if one knows it is wrong. What they SHOULD be hammering on is the fact that an individual violated confidentiality in order to out the pastor. It was an egregious thing to betray a trust.


17 posted on 08/09/2010 7:50:50 AM PDT by Guyin4Os (A messianic ger-tsedek)
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This is how I explained it to my sons many years ago.

God gives every single person something they have to overcome in some way. Something they have a difficulty with, something that to defeat they have to go to their knees. And some people are tempted with things others never had to deal with in any fashion, like homosexuality.

These things often are viewed completely differently by our worldly legal or moral systems. But God has very different eyes. What the world views as horrendous may be no different in God's view than something else the world views as ok.

And it is foolish to look down on any other person for these sins. Not only do we all have them; sometimes, we don't even know what they are.

18 posted on 08/09/2010 7:54:15 AM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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Wonderful article. God be with him always ...


19 posted on 08/09/2010 9:15:54 AM PDT by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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Good example.


20 posted on 08/13/2010 6:04:43 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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