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Magazine: Growing Trend--Evangelicals ‘Crossing the Tiber’ to Catholicism
TheSacredPage.com ^ | August 6, 2010 | Michael Barber

Posted on 08/07/2010 3:38:50 PM PDT by Salvation

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To: Quix
You're quite welcome, dear brother in Christ!
201 posted on 08/07/2010 9:21:41 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
the maps suggest that when a conservative religious body is dominant in a county that voted liberal, the members need to put more effort into their outreach, i.e. to get the conservative values across to their members and to the community.

LOL, of course but it may take some effort to put together a strategy on how to spread the word on something so complex and diverse to so many people in so many counties. I wish you well on that and I think that it would eventually pay off if you can put it together.

I think the political parties get into things on that scale.

202 posted on 08/07/2010 9:22:08 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: vladimir998
It’s not an opinion. It’s a fact - the SBC was started to uphold the life of slavery and racism.

Totally missed the point! What is in the heart? Of the person? Today? Now? The past is gone, your church cannot claim innocence in the past, but what matters is now and the Southern Baptist faith, IMO, is far closer to the gospel of Christ than many, many older ones.

203 posted on 08/07/2010 9:22:32 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: Salvation
The big cities kill our elections don’t they?

I certainly agree. In Illinois, Chicago has such a huge population the rest of the state hardly counts at all.

204 posted on 08/07/2010 9:24:09 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
Chicago has such a huge population the rest of the state hardly counts at all.

But each individual only gets one vote regardless of where he lives.

205 posted on 08/07/2010 9:26:28 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: narses
Now WHO needs to read the whole Bible? THe Scripture I gave you came AFTER PENTECOST, narses. It came in ACTS CHAPTER 9.

now who appears so inadequate in Bible facts...And if you read the WHOLE Bible, YOU should have known that..

206 posted on 08/07/2010 9:28:13 PM PDT by smvoice (smvoice- formally known as small voice in the wilderness. Easier on the typing!)
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To: ansel12
I wish you well on that and I think that it would eventually pay off if you can put it together.

There's nothing I can do about it. The dominant conservative religious body in a county - whether Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, Mormon - needs to be aware of these things and get to work. It is evidence of the ineffectiveness of their ministries if their conservative values are not shared in the community they dominant.

207 posted on 08/07/2010 9:29:26 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: ansel12
But each individual only gets one vote regardless of where he lives.

Indeed. But some of these cities are so large - and so out of step with the rest of their state - they are in effect a city-state.

208 posted on 08/07/2010 9:31:21 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: surroundedbyblue; Salvation

By the way if all Catholic democrat voters are automatically excommunicated then why do conservative Catholics push to excommunicate someone like a Pelosi, since we can assume that she votes Democrat isn’t she already excommunicated and remove from Catholic membership totals?

To what year (which election) does that excommunication rule go back to?


209 posted on 08/07/2010 9:32:08 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: LiteKeeper

Deeds still end up being in there somewhere :-)


210 posted on 08/07/2010 9:32:48 PM PDT by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: metmom
The penalty for sin was paid but that doesn’t mean that sin was eliminated.

Which is why work is still required, right?

211 posted on 08/07/2010 9:35:43 PM PDT by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: Alamo-Girl

One thing about that map is that it merely shows the largest single denomination in the county, if the county is absolutely diverse with hundreds of churches and one particular denomination claims one member more than any of the others, then it is painted as THE church of that county.


212 posted on 08/07/2010 9:37:29 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: smvoice

So? The concept seems to have blown right by you. What a shame.


213 posted on 08/07/2010 9:37:53 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: surroundedbyblue
SBs believe that life begins at conception and that it is God given at that point. And we believe that abortion is murder of an innocent baby. I can not quote their statement word for word but it ends with saying that when that baby is born it is born into the whole world which God created. I know many couples at my church who go the way of adoption. We have some wonderful, beautiful, loved children by that means. They are a blessing to their parents, grandparents, other relatives and their friends who treasure these blessing from another country.
214 posted on 08/07/2010 9:40:44 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: ansel12
The religious body of the counties marked with a dot are dominant (50%+ of the population) the others have a majority but are not dominant (<50%).
215 posted on 08/07/2010 9:42:00 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: narses

That’s not the actual shame, narses. The actual shame is evidently ignoring God’s Word if it doesn’t mention Peter. And believing that Jesus Christ spoke no more after He spoke to Peter. Even if you just follow the “red words” in your Bible they should be there, after Peter, in Acts, Chapter 9. He spoke to someone else after He spoke to Peter. That concept seems to have blown right by you. And that is a true shame.


216 posted on 08/07/2010 9:42:40 PM PDT by smvoice (smvoice- formally known as small voice in the wilderness. Easier on the typing!)
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To: ansel12; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

I realize we have to work with realities . . . and unless and until it was super overwhelmingly clear that a 3rd party would swamp one and a half of the other parties . . . we must work with the GOP.

However, we must also realize that

—the leaders of the GOP
—including the major stars in the GOP ‘stable,’

ARE ABOUT AS MUCH DYED-IN-THE-WOOL TRAITOROUS GLOBALISTS AS TEDDY KENNEDY AND TED TURNER.

THEY HAVE BEEN DEMONSTRATING THIS IN SPADES NOW THAT OTHUGA HAS BEEN SELECTED.

They can only be trusted to be traitorous and destructive . . . only slightly less horrific than the DIMRATS . . . or maybe not at all less destructive . . .

just more of a silly smile and softer music as they press the guillotine button.

THE BOSSES OF BOTH PARTIES are these blokes:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2

And THEY are NOT remotely interested in the welfare of the country. They are interested in the UTTER DESTRUCTION of their own nest—the US OF A . . . IN ORDER FOR THEIR LITERALLY SATANIC PRETEND UTOPIAN GLOBAL ORDER TO REIGN SUPREME AND UNFETTERED BY THE NATIONALISM OF THE USA.

They are convinced they have sufficient lavishly stocked and appointed bunkers that they can ride out the chaos and come out on top of the meager numbers of serfs left on the surface after the dust settles.

BOTH parties consider themselves the ruling elite DESERVING of treating the rest of us as slaves. They don’t believe in the divine rights of former kings. They believe that their born with gold spoons status or as self-made billionaires—that their own unique wonderful qualities entitle them to be our slave masters.

They have no awareness at all that God has a different destiny in store for them a lot sooner than they’d ever imagine.

However, they will be able to spread a lot of death, suffering, mayhem for at least several years far too long.

GOD ALONE IS WORTHY OUR EFFORTS. ONLY WHAT’S DONE FOR CHRIST WILL LAST. ONLY WHAT’S DONE FOR CHRIST WILL BE OF ANY MERIT AND ANY BENEFIT TO THE U.S. OF A.

IF God is directing political efforts, then, let them be whole heartedly as unto God. However, avoid being deceived. The political scene will wax largely worse and worse until after the literal Armageddon.

There is SOME possibility that God will have some sort of other dimensional or preserved unto Him or some such sort of OTHER government operating out of HIS SAFE HAVENS. But that is total wild fantasy conjecture—and highly doubtful at that. I don’t really expect such to operate until after Armageddon—at least not very widely. I just won’t be surprised if I’m wrong.

In any case, the only strength, wisdom, protection, resources, energy, supply, knowledge etc. of any lasting impact will be via GOD ALONE. ALL ELSE WILL FAIL. ALL THE ARMS OF FLESH WILL FAIL. They will fail the USA. They will fail individuals and families. They will fail businesses. All arms of flesh will fail utterly.

GOD ALONE WILL BE SUFFICIENT FOR LIFE, FOR EFFECTIVE IMPACT IN ANY RESPECTS IN ANY SPHERE OR LOCALE.

Adjust your thinking accordingly.

This ain’t Kansas. And it’s not going to be Kansas ever again—least wise not any time soon and not ever quite as before.

THAT’S REGARDLESS of how effective tea parties et al might be etc. etc. etc. And I’ve attended and support them and likely will again.


217 posted on 08/07/2010 9:52:00 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Alamo-Girl

Thanks I didn’t even notice the dots in some of the counties or the mention of them on the right, on my little 1990s screen.


218 posted on 08/07/2010 9:53:27 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: Tribune7

Deeds demonstrate the reality of your faith. But, it earns NOTHING in the eyes of God. Our salvation is purely the grace of God, and of works.


219 posted on 08/07/2010 9:57:34 PM PDT by LiteKeeper ("It's the peoples' seat!")
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To: Alamo-Girl

Again thanks for those added parameters of what the black dots mean. Very telling!


220 posted on 08/07/2010 9:57:47 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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