Posted on 08/07/2010 3:38:50 PM PDT by Salvation
Who cares what church the individual named Clinton claims, what matters is that the Catholics voted for him, just like they did for Gore in 2000, and Obama in 2008, and the Protestants voted against Clinton and Gore, and Obama,
Pelosi, Kerry, Kennedy, Are not now nor have they ever been Catholic, They can call themelves whatever they like, but no Catholic calls them Catholic
Yet in His agony in the garden He foresaw the disobedience and pride of those as Calvin Luther and Henry who would rend asunder His one true church into the 30000+ reorganized bands of blasphemy which claim to follow His word. They have eyes but are blind ears but can't hear . No wonder His agony was so great.
Your concern is the Catholic in Name only, but you find it easier to lump false Catholics in with the real ones, It makes your bigotry easier to rationalize. That is very Christian of you.
This is silly, Democrats will never end abortion, and Catholics are a Democrat constituency, by the way look at the chart in post 106.
If you want to end abortion then get a majority of Catholics to vote like the majority of Protestants.
Protestants clearly can not carry the load alone, they voted against Obama but they need help from a majority of Catholics, not a minority of them.
Vlad showed you the truth, you don't want to beleive it, your choice and you will answer for bearing false witness
I thought your religion taught you to leave the judging to Christ. That one should not judge another. And I also thought that if a person was baptized in the Catholic Church, they were members FOREVER. They could leave, but they would always be Catholic. Unless they were excommunicated, which none of the Pelosi, Kerry, or Kennedy Catholics have been.
Tell me what you think is the true number of Catholics in the United States, do we take that 54% right off the top of the total that the Catholic church claims?
As far as judging the quote is judge not lest you be judged by the same measure.
Go ahead judge me about my stance on abortion
You renounce millions of Catholics as not being Catholics, and now you claim that knowing voting facts of American elections and sharing that everyday political information on a political forum is bearing false witness, care to explain that?
Amen, Mom!
Being asked by the Pharisees when the Kingdom of God was coming, he answered them, "The Kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed; nor will they say, 'Lo, here it is!' or 'There!' for behold, the Kingdom of God is in the midst of you."
The works of the church at the time of Martin Luther were in desperate need of reform... however the theology did not.
The concept of sola fide... or by faith alone... has some validity as the greatest commandment of the new covenant as discussed in Matthew 22:37
However that is not the entire story... Jesus expands on the new covenant with his followers to include the following ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ from Matthew 22:39 and continues with the exultation to ‘Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.’ from John 13:34.
The Apostle Paul reinforces this concept in 1 Corinthians 13:13 by stating ‘And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.’
Going back to the original Greek... the word for love is Agape... or God’s unconditional Love.
A practicing Catholic should accept the grace of God freely given through Christ’s death and embodied by his resurrection in order to that love to help bring about God’s Kingdom such that ‘Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.’ Matthew 6:10... the Lord’s Prayer is not a passive recitation... but a call to action amongst the faithful.
Any complete discussion of the doctrine of sola fide must include a reference to the term’s only inclusion in holy scripture... James 2:24
“See how a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.”
and finally James 2:26
“For just as a body without a spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.”
We must have faith to accept God’s grace... but we absolutely must work to keep that light alive.
May God bless you and your service.
LOL, Yes of course. When the voting data is collected they count all those people and many more undesirables as Protestants.
When you see all that they include as Protestant it is simply amazing that the members of the Catholic church, still are far more liberal than the collection of all that fall under "Protestant".
Do you want to tell the Catholic church that they are over reporting the number of Catholics in America by counting the 54% that voted for Obama?
Well, this Catholic is staunchly Pro-Life.
You Still have not answered this. Is your statement above a fact or opinion?
Do you understand that the birth control pill causes early abortions in a certain number of cases? Tell me when the SBC has explained this to their members and told them that using birth control pills is sinful?
You wrote:
“Where are you finding this junk?”
The Pill is junk. Abortafacient junk. And most Protestants heartily support its use.
“You can not find a more pro-life church than Southern Baptists.”
Yes, you can - the Catholic Church. And the Southern Baptists - sectarians who started their sect to uphold slavery and racism - don’t have a church. They have a sect.
1989; “WHEREAS, the messengers to the annual meetings of the Southern Baptist Convention during the past decade have repeatedly reaffirmed their opposition to legalized abortion, except in cases where the mother’s life is immediately threatened;”
So, the SBs are all in favor of murdering innocent children if they think the mothers are in danger.
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