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Can Physics Prove the Existence of God?
Magis Center of Reason and Faith ^ | July 23, 2010 | Spitzer, Robert

Posted on 07/20/2010 6:09:03 PM PDT by firerosemom

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I teach physics at a Catholic secondary school, and I am interested in Fr. Spitzer's stated goal of examining fundamental physics constants (the strength of gravity, strong and weak nuclear forces, electromagnetic force, etc) to show that the chance of them being other than they are is so extremely remote as to argue for an intelligent designer. I am intrigued - what do you think?
1 posted on 07/20/2010 6:09:05 PM PDT by firerosemom
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Can not answer the question but I do have a counter-question: Can physics dispprove the existence of God?
2 posted on 07/20/2010 6:10:22 PM PDT by cranked
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i believe it can, but the ‘powers that be’ will alway make sure it wont, if ya get my drift...


3 posted on 07/20/2010 6:12:50 PM PDT by raygunfan
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To: firerosemom
No.

John 1:18.

4 posted on 07/20/2010 6:13:19 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: cranked

Good question - how might it do that? Would there be a series of indicators that, if lined up, would show that there is no originator of everything? Is that what you mean?


5 posted on 07/20/2010 6:13:50 PM PDT by firerosemom ("Don't make Me come down there..." --- God)
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n Physics Prove the Existence of God?

Only if GOD wants it to.

6 posted on 07/20/2010 6:15:01 PM PDT by doc1019 (Martyrdom is a great thing, until it is your turn.)
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But wouldn’t a reasoned, rational proof or dis-proof of God’s existence be able to be spread far and wide, esp. on the internet? I’d doubt that it could be squelched so easily.


7 posted on 07/20/2010 6:16:14 PM PDT by firerosemom ("Don't make Me come down there..." --- God)
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i believe there are plenty of rational points already out there that show the existance of God, all of the net and in the non-cyber world....and look where we are.....


8 posted on 07/20/2010 6:18:11 PM PDT by raygunfan
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To: pnh102

True - no one has ever seen God as He is, but what about those who have never been exposed to formalized religion of any sort - would they be able to know that a Creator exists independent of someone evangelizing them?


9 posted on 07/20/2010 6:18:40 PM PDT by firerosemom ("Don't make Me come down there..." --- God)
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Yes, of course it can because God created the physics of our universe!


10 posted on 07/20/2010 6:26:38 PM PDT by JSDude1
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The existence of God proves the illusion or maybe allusion of Physics..


11 posted on 07/20/2010 6:27:09 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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It is considered impossible, logically, to prove a null hypothesis so I would have to say no. It cannot be proved that here are no living dinosaurs, for example.


12 posted on 07/20/2010 6:27:20 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Obama. Chauncey Gardiner without the homburg.)
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True - no one has ever seen God as He is

I beg to differ. Everyone has seen God as He is ... right in front of us, within us ... all of us, every moment of every day. All around us, all the time.

Just that we tend to focus only on our immediate surroundings and existence, but that doesn't mean that 'God as He is' isn't everywhere at once and completely within His creation

13 posted on 07/20/2010 6:32:39 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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True - no one has ever seen God as He is, but what about those who have never been exposed to formalized religion of any sort - would they be able to know that a Creator exists independent of someone evangelizing them?

Prior to the Ascension of Jesus into heaven, He told the disciples that He would no longer be with them in the flesh. The disciples were worried about how they would carry on. Jesus told them that they would have to have faith in Him.

Jesus also told the disciples to spread His Word to everyone, every tribe, every nation. Jesus made no mention of previous religious experience as being a requirement for His grace and salvation.

Faith in Jesus is literally the bedrock of Christianity. We must trust that Jesus is our Savior.

And I trust in Him. Jesus is even more real to me than anything that is tangible to me. And I thank God for Him... as I am so fallen, only Jesus can raise me... and the rest of us.

14 posted on 07/20/2010 6:33:42 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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Not yet, according to Stephen Hawkings, who also says nothing in physics, including big bang, disproves God.


15 posted on 07/20/2010 6:34:10 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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Last year while taking Discrete Mathematics I found this short paper titled, “An Inductive Proof for God’s Existence II”, by Anthony J. Fejfar.

Its almost as simple as just believing.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2515476/An-Inductive-Proof-for-Gods-Existence-II


16 posted on 07/20/2010 6:34:58 PM PDT by Keflavik76 (It's an Obama Nation, pray for America.)
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But what if someone doesn’t trust in Jesus, for example, if they were raised in an environment that either mocked or ignored religion? Would they be unable to ever believe in a creator unless they had a “St. Paul” experience?


17 posted on 07/20/2010 6:37:45 PM PDT by firerosemom ("Don't make Me come down there..." --- God)
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Besides, the essence of Christianity is faith. Seeking proof through science is about the same mentality as those guys in the the medieval days seeking proof through “relics”.

It’s an evasion of just using faith.


18 posted on 07/20/2010 6:39:45 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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I don’t know. Sometimes people become curious about things mocked by those who raise them. A child raised in an environment that mocks religious, eventually might seek to know why it was so menacing to their parent.


19 posted on 07/20/2010 6:43:23 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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And i can’t prove it. But i think God wouldn’t even allow science to reveal him anyway. If we could just build the right kind of radio-telescope and “prove” him, that would basically undo the whole way we are supposed to find him.
Just my opinion there,,,


20 posted on 07/20/2010 6:47:20 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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