Testimony of a Former Irish Priest

BereanBeacon.Org ^ | Richard Peter Bennett

[Dr. Eckleburg]

You can't separate Jesus from the Scriptures. Scripture is how we know detail about Jesus and it is the authority with which we back up what we say so that people know that we're not just making up stuff about God.

AMEN! The word of God made flesh.

[Cronos]

Yes, and do we get the final answer? Do you believe in the Trinity or not?

The truth that in the unity of the Godhead there are Three , the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, these Three (in Greek Hypostases) being truly distinct one from another yet ONE being, one substance. Each having the one identical essence or nature, not merely similar natures

The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, and yet there are not three Gods but one God. The Persons are co-eternal and co-equal: all alike are uncreated and omnipotent.

[Alamo-Girl]

the declaration that Mary was the mother of Almighty[/Father] God!

Any Catholic poster claiming that Mary is the mother of God the Father should read the article posted at 6730.

[Cronos]

Well, of course we ask the same question because you don't answer:

1. Would you worship in a Lutheran church, considering it has the True Presence of Christ in the Eucharist, incense, icons, Crucifixes, kneeling etc. -- all of which you say you abhor?

2. Would you worship in a Word-of-Faith service with Kenneth Hagin or Creflo Dollar acknowledging their teachings as 'pastors'? You said so yourself that any group that was non-Catholic was fine by you.

[Cronos]

Yes, like in the Middle East or South Asia today, “brother” can mean cousin or step-brother or adopted brother or foster brother or real brother or even close friend. Familial ties are closer, yet definitions looser than the Anglo-Saxon world

[Cronos]

Well, we’ve concluded that the majority of active non-Catholic cool, quixotic, large voiced or doctoring documents posters on this thread are not “Protestants” (with notable exceptions of xone and boatbums among others), as this group seem to reject basic Christian precepts like the Trinity and not lying. I’m sure our Protestant friends who have stayed away from this mire would hate to be included in any bunch that included these posters, so I will now refer to this doctor was cool, quixotic etc. bunch as the Marcionites.

[Deo volente]

"MARY IS THE MOTHER OF ALMIGHTY GOD!" _________________________________________________________________________ INDEED!

[Cronos]

quix: "JESUS PERSISTENTLY REFERRED TO IT IS WRITTEN AS *HIS* CREATOR GOD's "

So now you too, Quix, seem to believe that Jesus was Created? REally? Or is that a mis-type on your part?

[Dr. Eckleburg]

it's not exhaustive in every detail about salvation, and yet all that is necessary is found in it?

Are you misquoting on purpose or just clumsily? Protestants believe and have repeatedly stated what God's word teaches about itself -- that Scripture is sufficient to bring a man to a saving faith in Jesus Christ as Lord, God and Savior.

This "exhaustive in every detail about salvation" is a phrase of your own making and is, therefore, illogical.

As Bible-believing Christians have said, "the Bible does not have to be exhaustive to function as the sole rule of faith for the Church" and "all that is necessary for that blessed assurance is found in the Bible."

And as far as being "exhaustive in every detail about salvation," there just aren't that many "details." One overshadows all others. One is all it takes.

This one...

"Be not afraid; only believe." -- Mark 5:36

Roman Catholics get lost in imaginary "details" that only lead away from Christ.

[D-fendr]

I enjoy discussing theology although the round-and-round gets old, and, I admit that unlike some of the more conscientious here, I scroll past any post in more than one color - black.

Bottom line, for me: the minimum requirement is entertainment value.

Now where else are you going to come across an Exciting Author you didn't know before who received an honorary doctorate from Pacific International University for his work on the Nephilim Trilogy?

You're just not going to get these kind of opportunities on Yahoo Chat.

[Deo volente]

I asked him earlier today if he believed Jesus was “created” by His Father, and he hasn’t replied yet.

[Deo volente]

I asked him earlier today if he believed Jesus was “created” by His Father, and he hasn’t replied yet.

[Cronos]

well, yes. We’re arguing with what we thought were a bunch of Protestants, but now it seems that they are not, as they do not even believe in the basic Christian concepts like the Trinity

[Deo volente]

I understood his term “Almighty” to include God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. If he meant the Father only, well, the Catholic Church never declared that Mary was the mother of God the Father. If that’s what he meant, his post is erroneous on its face. The Church never said that, nor will it ever say that.

His posts are very incoherent most of the time. A jumbled mess of words, colors, and various font sizes, with some vicious and gratuitous slurs thrown in for extra shock value.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

A Lutheran service is not a Roman Catholic service.

Learn the differences. They are profound.

You said so yourself that any group that was non-Catholic was fine by you.

Do all RCs lie or just the few we bump into on the FR RF?

I never made that statement. However, you may be confused since it is the RCC which believes muslims are saved, but Protestants are anathematized and thus damned to hell.

[the_conscience]

What I did say was that it was not de Fide until the definition. Assent to it was not required.

Here I keep getting told by Romanists that their church is the one that the "truth once delivered" was delivered to but yet apparently not all the truth?

So if someone wants to join the Romanist Church today they have to assent not only to "Mary mother of God" but to "Mary mother of God with additional premises"?

What great heresy was the Romanist Church fighting that made them have to declare that Mary was sinless?

[Deo volente]

I must add to that post: the Church never said that Mary was the mother of the Trinity, either.

Mary is NOT the mother of God the Father.
Mary is NOT the mother of God the Holy Spirit.
Mary IS the Mother of God the Son. She became His mother when He was conceived in her womb and became man. He is one Person with two natures, Divine and human, and Mary is His Mother.

I don’t know what he means by “Almighty God”. Does he mean the Trinity, God the Father, or God the Son? I’m pretty sure he doesn’t mean the Holy Spirit, but who really knows? It would be nice to get a clarification so a real discussion could take place.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

(hint: immaculate does not mean "infallible", but then again you probably never had cause to understand either in the context of your religion)

lol. No one said it did. "Immaculate conception" refers to the blasphemous lie that Mary herself was conceived without sin.

Rome's vanity knows no bounds. From Vatican.va (RCC catechism)...

721 - Mary, the all-holy ever-virgin Mother of God, is the masterwork of the mission of the Son and the Spirit in the fullness of time. For the first time in the plan of salvation and because his Spirit had prepared her, the Father found the dwelling place where his Son and his Spirit could dwell among men. In this sense the Church's Tradition has often read the most beautiful texts on wisdom in relation to Mary.101 Mary is acclaimed and represented in the liturgy as the "Seat of Wisdom."

Mary is "all-holy???"

Rome preaches another Gospel.

[count-your-change]

“Either RCs are ignorant of what their church teaches, or they will say anything to make a point; a point which changes daily.”

If I were a generous person I might assume the first, however given that anyone can find the same information quite readily......

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Kindly provide the evidence of your denials spelling out specifically what you’ve written, or we’ll be forced to accept the documentation Old Reggie provided.