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To: Natural Law; TSgt; RnMomof7; Alex Murphy; HarleyD; wmfights; Forest Keeper; the_conscience; ...
(hint: immaculate does not mean "infallible", but then again you probably never had cause to understand either in the context of your religion)

lol. No one said it did. "Immaculate conception" refers to the blasphemous lie that Mary herself was conceived without sin.

Rome's vanity knows no bounds. From Vatican.va (RCC catechism)...

721 - Mary, the all-holy ever-virgin Mother of God, is the masterwork of the mission of the Son and the Spirit in the fullness of time. For the first time in the plan of salvation and because his Spirit had prepared her, the Father found the dwelling place where his Son and his Spirit could dwell among men. In this sense the Church's Tradition has often read the most beautiful texts on wisdom in relation to Mary.101 Mary is acclaimed and represented in the liturgy as the "Seat of Wisdom."

Mary is "all-holy???"

Rome preaches another Gospel.

6,818 posted on 08/04/2010 10:40:56 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
In the Eastern Orthodox, they use: "Our All-holy, immaculate, most blessed and glorified Lady, the Theotokos and Ever-Virgin Mary."

All-holy is from the Greek, Panagia and is also used by all Orthodox. It, Panagia, is used in titles because she is the supreme example of cooperation between God and the free will of man. "Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to your word"

I realize that you don't believe in free will, but this the origin and use of the term for those who are interested.

6,823 posted on 08/04/2010 10:52:25 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

The doctrine goes on with gibberish about sanctifying grace preserving her from original sin. The bottom line is that they want a “New Eve” goddess to worship.


6,825 posted on 08/04/2010 11:04:14 PM PDT by the_conscience (We ought to obey God, rather than men. (Acts 5:29b))
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Rome preaches another Gospel.


That’s horrific enough.

They preach another

—reality
—multiverse
—daffynitionary
—stretchy convoluted history
—pretend logic

and . . . coming soon to a parish nearby

—that what are actually fallen angel “ET’s” [evidently unbeknownst to the Vatican] are, per the Vatican . . . “space brothers” either not in need of Salvation or elligible for Salvation through Christ.

It’s still shocking that not only do they expect us to think their Religion is Biblical and rational—they think we should consider them better Christians than say the LDS or other cults.

And I used to. Before I ran into this pile of RC’s on FR.


6,876 posted on 08/05/2010 2:10:27 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Rome preaches another Gospel.

Well, other than the Reformation does. We preach the Gospel of Jesus, found in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Where does your gospel come from?

7,133 posted on 08/05/2010 4:18:03 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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