Posted on 07/11/2010 12:05:34 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
"On behalf of the Catholic Church in El Salvador and society in general, we ask Mr. President to use his executive power to veto the decree referred to upholding the rule of law and democracy of our Salvadoran society"
The Episcopal Conference of El Salvador (CEDES) demanded on Sunday the president Mauricio Funes veto a legislative decree that compels us to read the Bible in schools, believing that "violates" the "religious freedom" enshrined in the Constitution.
The CEDES Funes makes the call under in the coming days must be punished, veto or observe the legislative decree 411 which provides read the Bible in classrooms to combat violence.
The education of children in the faith, according to the bishops, "is a right and duty" of parents, aided by ministers of religion.
"We are interested in reading the Bible, but not as imposing liability in the schools, hopefully becoming more read the Bible is more understood, more practiced," says the shepherd.
(Excerpt) Read more at translate.google.com ...
Apparently the Catholic church is afraid people will hear the true Word without their baggage added onto it.
Ping of interest!
Catholic, Baptist and Pentecostal leaders are all opposing this move, because it involves individual teachers deciding which religion they want to teach in their classroom. it is seen also as an assault by liberals in the government on Christian schools of every denomination - by mandating a watered-down state-approved version of liberal Christianity the charters of the Christian schools will be labeled superfluous and will not be renewed.
Ah, the rest of the story. Thank you.
Actually a number of different Christian groups have opposed this. The problem is the same one that happened here in the 19th century - the teacher of the class will choose how to interpret the Bible. Some of those teachers will undoubtedly mock the scriptures because they are unbelievers.
Those who aren’t anti-Catholic bigots would know this or at least look into it. Anti-Catholics, however, are too lazy or stupid to do that much work or have taht much integrity.
http://www.ethicsdaily.com/news.php?viewStory=16344
Actually, you are both grossly wrong. My wife speaks fluent Spanish and she says this law mandates reading from the Bible WITHOUT INTERPRETATION. Scripture will be read verbatim without any thing else said by the teachers.
By the way, any Protestant “leaders” against this are liberals, as is the Catholic church on this matter.
Learn Spanish and read up on it. How dare you be against this.
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Vlad, you gave us an article that doesn’t say ANYTHING ABOUT INTERPRETING the Scripture in class—apparently, that won’t be done.
What your article gives us is merely concerns around WHICH version of the Bible will have its verses read from.
Didn’t you even read it? Oh, by the way, anti-Protestant bigots would have read it, I would have thought.
You wrote:
“Vlad, you gave us an article that doesn’t say ANYTHING ABOUT INTERPRETING the Scripture in class—apparently, that won’t be done.”
It will be. Students will ask questions and teachers will answer them - according to their own beliefs.
“What your article gives us is merely concerns around WHICH version of the Bible will have its verses read from.”
And that is a huge issue. It will also foster Indifferentism. That too is a huge issue.
“Didn’t you even read it? Oh, by the way, anti-Protestant bigots would have read it, I would have thought.”
Would have thought? You mean you don’t know?
Ping of interest.
Wow. Talk about ignore-rant. Sometimes I think the folks who post these threads have the intellect of a fire ant.
I love hearing you debate issues from “the Catholic perspective”. You always put it just right, Vlad.
Apparently, you said that “teachers” would interpret, then, when shown your words and interpretation is BOGUS, you then say the equivalent of, “Well, it’s almost the same thing if students interpret the words on their own or ask questions about it.”
Get real.
Oh, now the real issues around this, according to you, is NOT that teachers would “interpret”, since now you’ve been kicked with that one, but, instead, that the Bible translation and possible “indifferentism” (whatever the HECK that word is) will occur?
Your words are just so much clanging in the wind, Vlad.
This is a legitimate article from a major news organization in Central America.
It is what it is. And it’s scary that the Catholic church is against a country trying to minimize gang violence by mandating Bible readings in school.
Cheese goes well with silly whine
You wrote:
“Oh, now the real issues around this, according to you, is NOT that teachers would “interpret”, since now you’ve been kicked with that one,”
Didn’t happen. As I said, teachers will interpret - no matter what the law actually says. Tecahers will answer questions - and that will mean interpretation. A translation will be selected over others - and that means interpretation. Particular verses will be picked - and that means interpretation.
“but, instead, that the Bible translation and possible “indifferentism” (whatever the HECK that word is) will occur?”
Indifferentism. Before you condemn what you don’t seem to know, I suggest you look it up.
“Your words are just so much clanging in the wind, Vlad.”
No, my words will be shown to be correct.
Right.
Since your wife has access to the Spanish sources, why don't you post the Spanish text of the law? It would be an interesting read. Why didn't you get your wife to translate the article instead of Google? Surely her version would be more reliable, si?
Man, you are grasping at straws to save yourself.
First of all, that the Catholic church would actively protest a country trying to get Bible reading in schools is so perverted. Apparently we are to assume the Catholic church would be against such a law here? I’m curious, was the Catholic church in the US on the side of atheists as court cases ruled even “moments of silence” are wrong? I mean, there’s a big problem with interpreting what might come up in someone’s mind when silent, right?
Back to your words. In your first post, these were your words on the matter:
“The problem is the same one that happened here in the 19th century - the teacher of the class will choose how to interpret the Bible.”
When your own article post shows that’s not the case at all, you then add that “teachers will answer questions - and that will mean interpretation.” Uh, yeah, right. Do you realize 90 percent of those teachers will be Catholics?? I don’t even care if they give the CATHOLIC version on that—just get the actual BIBLE read in the darn classes and let’s see what happens.
Man, how can you be against 9 out of 10 teachers giving the CATHOLIC version of how to interpret that stuff?
So, you are the anti-Catholic here, not me, it would appear.
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