Posted on 07/08/2010 8:54:20 AM PDT by 0beron
Edited on 07/08/2010 9:57:44 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
"Vatican Officials" say a lot of things. This man who is said to be an expert in demonology also claims to be an expert on the phenomenon of intelligent extraterrestrial life. We say they are supernatural in origin and the appearance of strange and foreboding lights in the sky are unfavorable signs.
Monsignor Corrado Balducci, a theologian member of the Vatican Curia (governing body), and an insider close to the Pope, has gone on Italiannational television five times, including recent months, to proclaim that extraterrestrial contact is a real phenomenon. Balducci provided an analysis of extraterrestrials that he feels is consistent with the Catholic Church's understanding of theology. Monsignor Balducci emphasizes that extraterrestrial encounters "are NOT demonic, they are NOT due topsychological impairment, they are NOT a case of entity attachment, but these encounters deserve to be studied carefully." Since Monsignor Balducci is a demonology expert and consultant to the Vatican , and since the Catholic Church has historically demonized many new phenomena that were poorly understood, [Like the historical propensity for the press to be leftist deceivers who herald new phenomena like Communism as saviours of mankind.] his stating that the Church does not censure these encounters is all the more remarkable.
Balducci revealed to a visiting American professional that the Vatican is closely following this phenomenon quietly. My informant originally surmised that the Vatican is receiving much information about extraterrestrials and their contacts with humans from its Nunciatures (embassies) in various countries.
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EXCELLENT FACTUAL POINTS.
Of course, as we’ve repeatedly seen, some folks are not interested in, nor influenced by facts or truth.
THX THX.
I understand that there will be some people that will not listen to the Truth, but then I don't see where we are to then use part of the “untruth” to reach them. Should we then study witchcraft to reach those that are deceived by that deception? (which are many thanks to Harry Potter and vampire films).
I do not think that the problems with reaching people with the Truth start from not understanding the deception but from a lack of living out the Truth in front of them.
Romans 3:3-4 What if some did not have faith? Will their lack of faith nullify God's faithfulness? Not at all! Let God be true, and every man a lair. As it is written: “So that you may be proved right when you speak and prevail when you judge.”
God bless
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Quix, I went to your link and found that it’s a paid subscription site.
This statement is on the page:
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As humans we live in both the human realm and the Godly/Metaphysical one. And God helps us bridge the gap.
That said, it is better to starve in the human one than sin against the Godly one, isn't it. Luckily, for most of us, our jobs don't make us choose between them.
However, what if your superiors asked you to design an engineering project that you believe violates His will. Such a project would be rejected by you altogether, wouldn't it.
In my career, I have rejected many assignments because I thought they were wrong--and usually my superiors came to see the efficacy of such decisions. And even when they didn't, they came to respect my desire to do what is right.
My experience is that God's will is also good for companies and certainly the customers they serve.
Long story, short...as a retired executive, I would certainly want the men and women working under my direction to be directed by their consciences FIRST and by sound business, engineering and financial principles SECOND.
As to your point about space aliens, I also tend to think that what is being experienced and observed are NOT space aliens.
BTW, I focus my attention not on what people have observed visually but on those individuals who believe they have been part of a lifetime abduction process.
The most authoritative accounts and those which seem most self-evidently accurate are those recorded by John Mack and Budd Hopkins.
Clearly something has happened to these people. And because the accounts are consistent down to the tiniest details and over long periods of time--in some cases, over the entire lifetimes of multiple generations of some families--one can safely conclude that what is happening has been confirmed by many, many witnesses.
Now to what is happening!
It is rather clear that the abductees are being subjected to a kind of collective rape and the experiences violate all manner of the standards of decency we humans hold dear. It is in fact possible (in a metaphysical sense--call it conscience if you wish) for those who pore over the vast collections of abductions accounts to reach only one conclusion--such abduction are inherently evil.
In fact, they are evil to a Satanic degree.
For that reason, I tend to believe these creatures who claim during abductions to be "aliens" are most like what have been described Biblically as fallen angels--creatures which exist in a spiritual realms yet can either interact with this realm or actually enter it.
As Allan Hynek came to believe, these beings are not extra-terrestrial, but extra-dimensional.
Now, is it possible that these abduction experiences are actually the result of childhood abuse or even Satanic ritual abuse (as some have suggested)?
I believe that is possible. But that still doesn't explain the physical scars and multiple witnesses to such accounts (when two or more people claim to have been collectively abducted).
All said...this is a very real phenomena and an enigmatic one. But because we lack the evidence to absolute define it does not mean that sensible people can ignore it or pretend it isn't happening or to deny the great pain it is causing some among us.
Sorry for the long answer, but I hope it clarifies the reasons some of us are part of these threads.
YES I DO HAVE PRIOR WRITTEN CONSENT FROM LINDA MOULTON HOWE.
I also have prior written consent from Whitley Strieber.
Now, perhaps you’d be willing to share your motives for such a query.
YES I DO HAVE PRIOR WRITTEN CONSENT FROM LINDA MOULTON HOWE.
I also have prior written consent from Whitley Strieber.
You’re not per se on any ping list of mine.
I noted your post on this thread and included you for a post or 3 as I thought you were interested in the topic from your posting on this thread.
I gather you’re not familiar with such as . . .
Constance C’s work . . . I think with New Age and occultic related stuff.
Or Dr Walter Martin’s Kingdom of the Cults?
Or the Tanner’s work on Mormonism?
Having been happy to lay this topic aside many times, . . . each time for God to insist I carry on with the work, I shall remain faithful to My Lord’s mandate, FOR ME, on the issues and topic—particularly as they relate to the END TIMES.
INDEED.
GOOD POINTS.
THX.
Your great concern, warmth, affection, sweetness and light, in my direction, this Lord’s day, are noted.
No. That would be a mistake. It’s FREE REPUBLIC that I care about. There is no great concern, warmth, affection, sweetness or light in your direction whatsoever.
Oh. I see. I’m glad you’re so protective of FR.
What on earth could I have been thinking!
It’s encouraging to read that it wasn’t, evidently,
puredee venomous nastiness.
Ahhhh well, Constant Comment tea is on the way.
“And before the doctor had sewed his small cut up, it had already healed up. You couldn’t even see a scar!”
Like the miraculous healing of the AC’s wound?
More than a little plausible.
MetYes, it is different. There's a world of difference.
The essential message of fatima is praying and sacrificing for the conversion of people in the world and people to turn away from sin
How is that ANYONE could possibly even try to say this is the work of the devil?Are you going to say the devil wants people to turn away from sin ? Ludicrous!
Denying the goodness of fatima is NO different than what the pharisee's did in calling good evil.
Do you both need to be reminded that ALL GOOD THINGS COME FROM CHRIST!
However, what if your superiors asked you to design an engineering project that you believe violates His will. Such a project would be rejected by you altogether, wouldn't it.
Oddly enough, this has never happened. Either that or I have been able to run the project in such a way that it did not violate any ethics or morality that I have.
My experience is that God's will is also good for companies and certainly the customers they serve.
Agreed. I find this also.
For that reason, I tend to believe these creatures who claim during abductions to be "aliens" are most like what have been described Biblically as fallen angels--creatures which exist in a spiritual realms yet can either interact with this realm or actually enter it.
If they enter this realm, then they can be dealt with as an entity within the realm. If they can be dealt with, then they can be subdued, held, immobilized or killed. Then we can deal with the analysis of them. If we can analyze them, then we can find a methodology in which we can repel them effectively.
All said...this is a very real phenomena and an enigmatic one. But because we lack the evidence to absolute define it does not mean that sensible people can ignore it or pretend it isn't happening or to deny the great pain it is causing some among us.
OK, something is happening. The explanations of that something leave much to be desired such as clarity. If something has happened to the degree that it has, for the time that it has, and to the great number of people that it has, why is there no clear explanation of the phenomenon?
Sorry for the long answer, but I hope it clarifies the reasons some of us are part of these threads.
Appreciate the response. I believe that something is happening. I am just not satisfied with the lack of proof, data and information about what that something is.
The people who control money and resources have been in control for a very long time and forced all sorts of atrocities on society's all over the world.
I don't understand why people worry so much about all this because the battle is over and evil has lost,thus we are to spend our days loving others,standing up for goodness,and preparing for eternal glory. Evil people can kill us or enslave us but can do no harm to our souls unless we let them drag us into their way of thinking
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