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To: metmom; Quix
Stfassisi-For someone to attribute Fatima to the work of satan is NO different than the Pharisees attributing Christ;s miracles to the work of satan

MetYes, it is different. There's a world of difference.

The essential message of fatima is praying and sacrificing for the conversion of people in the world and people to turn away from sin

How is that ANYONE could possibly even try to say this is the work of the devil?Are you going to say the devil wants people to turn away from sin ? Ludicrous!

Denying the goodness of fatima is NO different than what the pharisee's did in calling good evil.

Do you both need to be reminded that ALL GOOD THINGS COME FROM CHRIST!

238 posted on 07/11/2010 9:16:24 AM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi
How is that ANYONE could possibly even try to say this is the work of the devil?Are you going to say the devil wants people to turn away from sin ? Ludicrous!

Satan wants people to turn away from the truth. "Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen." (Romans 1:25).

"In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them."(2 Cor. 4:4).

"Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thess. 2:10).

What is this love of the truth that saves?

"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised Him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."(Rom. 10:9,10,13).

"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God: not of works lest any man should boast." (Eph. 2:8,9).

The love of the truth that saves is that we are saved by grace, not works. If a person is depending on their works to save them, they are not walking in the Truth of God's Word. If they are not walking in the Truth of God's Word, they can and will be deceived by Satan.

241 posted on 07/11/2010 9:43:09 AM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: stfassisi; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

Sounds like some comprehensive ASSUMPTIONS are in charge again.

1. The messages THE VATICAN INSTITUTIONS & officials LAYERED ON THE PHENOMENA are a whole DIFFERENT ISSUE.

2. It appears that any specific ‘messages’ . . . however arguable . . . are unlikely to have been the priority from the critters’ and satan’s perspective.

3. The main MESSAGE appears to have been to seduce thousands of people and now millions into giving credit as GODLY that which was under control of the evil one from the beginning to the end.

I’m still studying the two thick research reports. In due, course, Lord willing and there’s time and energy, I’ll post a significant set of summaries of such documentation. I believe it’s MORE THAN SUFFICIENT to stand up in a court of law.


251 posted on 07/11/2010 12:31:18 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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