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Defending the Holy See [Vatican Lawyer Discusses the Supreme Court’s Decline of Abuse Appeal]
National Catholic Register ^ | 6/29/2010 | JOAN FRAWLEY DESMOND

Posted on 06/29/2010 3:14:12 PM PDT by Alex Murphy

Jeffrey Lena lives and works in Berkeley, Calif.  He holds an advanced degree in history and taught that subject prior to attending law school in California and at the University of Milan. After law school, he taught law in Italy. He has represented the Institute for Religious Works (Vatican Bank) in 2000, and began representation of the Holy See in 2002. Since that time, he has represented the Holy See in a variety of matters, ranging from commercial litigation to abuse cases.

Lena spoke about the June 28 decision by the Supreme Court to not take Holy See v. John Doe, regarding an Oregon man who wants to hold the Vatican financially responsible for his sexual abuse by a priest in the 1960s.


The Supreme Court's decision not to consider your petition is widely characterized as a blow to your legal effort to establish the Vatican's "sovereign immunity" from prosecution in clergy sexual-abuse cases.

It would have been helpful had the Supreme Court accepted the case, but the issue before the court was narrow, relating only to the meaning of the term "scope of employment." The decision of the court not to take the case is not a reflection of a lack of merit. In fact, as is well known, the United States agrees with the Holy See on the underlying legal issue.


The attorney for the plaintiff noted that the Supreme Court - composed of six Catholics - ruled against the Vatican's interests.

This was not a decision in favor of the plaintiff or against the Holy See. It was simply a determination that the time was not right to have the case heard by the Supreme Court. It is really not appropriate and indeed misleading, in my opinion, to view the actions of justices as "pro-Catholic" or "anti-Catholic" based on such decisions.

I have every confidence that the justices are simply making decisions based upon what cases are appropriate for them to take at this point in time. Much too much is made of the religious composition of the court. It seems to me unseemly for Catholics to celebrate or depend upon the Catholic composition of the court, just as it would be unseemly for Protestants to do so.


Then how should the public interpret the Supreme Court's decision?

The Supreme Court decided not to grant the Holy See's petition for certiorari, which is simply a request that the court consider the issue. The court's decision as to whether to take the case or not is based upon the Supreme Court's general docket as well as what cases it wishes to hear each term. As noted, the decision not to hear the case is not a comment on the case's merits.

The effect of this decision is to cause the case to return to the district court in Oregon, where the additional remaining defenses will be heard. Currently, the plaintiff has one jurisdictional theory left: The priest who committed the abuse was an "employee" of the Holy See. We will point out to the district court that the priest in question was not an employee of the Holy See, and that, therefore, the district court does not have jurisdiction over the case.

As a foreign sovereign, the Holy See enjoys "sovereign immunity" from lawsuits. It has enjoyed diplomatic relations with the United States since 1984. Has anyone successfully sued the Holy See in this country?

No. Although various attempts to sue the Holy See have been made over the years, jurisdiction has not been established in any of them. Currently, there is a case in Kentucky where the jurisdictional question pending is whether the bishop of Louisville is the employee of the Holy See. There is also a case in Wisconsin, known as the Murphy case, which is currently not active. The decision of the Supreme Court does not affect in any way either of those two cases.


Yet media reports characterized the Supreme Court decision as a blow to the Holy See's efforts to establish sovereign immunity from prosecution. Is this the case?

As I mentioned, it would have been preferable, from my point of view, if the Supreme Court had taken the case, because I believe that it would have corrected the law related to "scope of employment" under the federal statute. But by the same token, the denial by the Supreme Court does not signify a loss of immunity. The immunity has not been stripped because there has been no factual determination that the priest who committed the abuse is an employee of the Holy See. Without a showing of the priest's employment by the Holy See, there is no jurisdiction. In fact, Father [Andrew] Ronan was a priest of a religious order, the Friar Servants of Mary.

In our view, the indicators of employment simply are not present. The Holy See did not pay the salary of the priest or provide his benefits or exercise day-to-day control over him or have any other connection with him indicating the presence of an employment relationship. This priest was a member of the Friar Servants of Mary. His very existence was unknown to the Holy See until after all the events in question. I do not believe that the plaintiff has any information to contradict that view.

Yet experts suggest there could be an exception to the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act.

The Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act is built upon the existence of certain precise exceptions. Here, the required exception is that the priest be an "employee" of the Holy See. This is simply factually inaccurate. Prior to this time, the case has been about whether the plaintiff's complaint was "adequate." Now the question is whether there are any facts to support the plaintiff's complaint.


Among several allegations, the lawsuit accused the Vatican of "conspiring with U.S. Church officials to transfer a priest from city to city despite repeated accusations that the clergyman sexually abused young people."

Originally, the plaintiff outlined such a theory and others. As mentioned, all claims based on conspiracy, fraud and negligence are already eliminated. In addition, the entire portion of the case relating to the Holy See using or working through the Friar Servants of Mary or the Archdiocese of Chicago or the Diocese of Portland has been barred under the 9th Circuit's ruling.


If the Holy See loses this lawsuit, many Catholics fear, the great cultural patrimony of the Catholic Church -- the Michelangelos and Raphaels -- could be liquidated to pay a flood of claims by abuse victims.

Let me offer a "note of reassurance": This simply will not happen. The cultural treasures held by the Holy See are all safe.


How do you defend the Catholic Church -- a monolith that spans the whole globe and includes many institutional practices that are poorly understood by Americans, even practicing Catholics?

The question is to some extent based upon a misconception. I don't defend "the Catholic Church." The defendant here is the Holy See. I defend the Holy See. One of the most important parts of that defense is to help people understand that the Church is not a monolith. It is composed of different entities that operate with relative autonomy and make their own decisions about the hiring and firing of personnel. Thus, just because a priest is a member of a religious order, it does not make him an employee of the Holy See.


What's your next step?

To return to the district court -- and to address the question of whether or not this priest, Andrew Ronan, was an employee of the Holy See or not. The plaintiffs have yet to come up with any evidence that Father Ronan worked for the Vatican. They have all the documents from the order and the diocese. None of these bear the fingerprints of the Holy See.


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To: Quix; Dr. Eckleburg; betty boop; trisham; sayuncledave
Dr. Eckleburg raised and you expanded on an important point. Namely, that these errant priests stand as evidence that not all persons who call themselves Catholic believe the Church dogma and doctrines.

Or to put it another way, non-Catholics are often accused of having their own private interpretation of Scripture - YOPIOS or something like that.

But in the final analysis, each person - Catholic or not - is an individual not a robot.

We are not made with a cookie cutter. Some understand more. Some believe more. Some understand but rebel. Some love God. Some resent Him. And so on.

Only God knows what is in all our hearts.

The heart [is] deceitful above all [things], and desperately wicked: who can know it? – Jer 17:9

And so I would say that no assembly of Christians is a monolith. Tenets may be carved in stone, but members are fallible individuals.

Love God. Believe Him. Trust Him.

21 posted on 06/30/2010 7:41:52 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: livius
The contest to determine whether one is an employee or independent contractor has been heavily litigated by the IRS. There are the famous 25 factors which indicate if one is either an employee or independent contractor. The court will probably utilize these factors in its determination . It appears that the subject was an independent contractor notwithstanding the arguments that the Vatican creates the dogma which controls his actions. In this situation, arguments for employee status appear to be too tenuous.Similar pleadings established precedence which will control the outcome.

As for the fear of losing the fine art treasures housed in the Vatican , said treasures are owned by the citizens of Italy under the 1929 concordat with the Vatican.

22 posted on 06/30/2010 7:48:18 AM PDT by bronx2
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
They are now being called "independent contractors".

How's that for the "Bush's Fault" excuse of the Catholic Church? lol!

23 posted on 06/30/2010 9:04:12 AM PDT by small voice in the wilderness
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To: wmfights; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; ...

Well put

AND A VERY APT EXAMPLE, imho.

Thx.


24 posted on 06/30/2010 9:07:49 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Alamo-Girl

Or to put it another way, non-Catholics are often accused of having their own private interpretation of Scripture - YOPIOS or something like that.

But in the final analysis, each person - Catholic or not - is an individual not a robot.

We are not made with a cookie cutter. Some understand more. Some believe more. Some understand but rebel. Some love God. Some resent Him. And so on.

Only God knows what is in all our hearts.

The heart [is] deceitful above all [things], and desperately wicked: who can know it? – Jer 17:9

And so I would say that no assembly of Christians is a monolith. Tenets may be carved in stone, but members are fallible individuals.
Love God. Believe Him. Trust Him.


ABSOLUTELY INDEED.

THX THX.


25 posted on 06/30/2010 9:09:25 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Alamo-Girl

Excellent post


26 posted on 06/30/2010 9:17:10 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: small voice in the wilderness
They are now being called "independent contractors". How's that for the "Bush's Fault" excuse of the Catholic Church? lol!

LOLOL. The similarities between the papacy and the democrat party just keep piling up.

27 posted on 06/30/2010 9:32:37 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Quix; RnMomof7
Thank you for your encouragements, dear brother and sister in Christ!
28 posted on 06/30/2010 9:53:38 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

I’d ask my local priest if his employer was the Holy See, but I don’t want him to think I’m that stupid.


29 posted on 06/30/2010 10:30:54 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

LOLOL!


30 posted on 06/30/2010 10:39:21 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: bronx2
and yet these "independent contractors" have the power, confirmed to them by Rome, to "retain" or "remit" sin? They should be forced to put a disclaimer on their priesthood.

*independent contractor according to the Pope*

31 posted on 06/30/2010 12:48:20 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; markomalley; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; ...
Catholic Ping
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32 posted on 06/30/2010 4:43:05 PM PDT by NYer ("God dwells in our midst, in the Blessed Sacrament of the altar." St. Maximilian Kolbe)
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To: bronx2
As for the fear of losing the fine art treasures housed in the Vatican , said treasures are owned by the citizens of Italy under the 1929 concordat with the Vatican.

Hmmm.... Is this everything in the Vatican Museum or are specific items singled out? Where can we read a translation of this agreement?

33 posted on 06/30/2010 5:15:05 PM PDT by Desdemona (One Havanese is never enough.)
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To: bronx2

Thank you for the analysis. Even from the point of view of a complete layman, I couldn’t imagine how they were going to establish the Vatican as the employer. Still, stranger things have happened, and I am glad to know that US law wouldn’t favor this.

As for the Vatican art works, thank you again for the information on the concordat.


34 posted on 06/30/2010 6:19:06 PM PDT by livius
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To: Alex Murphy

This is a good explanation of the issues in the lawsuit!


35 posted on 07/01/2010 8:33:55 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: wmfights
f one of these contractors has access to my buildings and is not supervised if they commit a crime I won't be prosecuted for it.

This is sometimes referred to as 'vicarious' liability for the acts of your agents, consultants and other contractors. It is your responsibility to make sure the agent you hire conducts business in accordance with the law!

36 posted on 07/01/2010 8:40:02 AM PDT by the_conscience (We ought to obey God, rather than men. (Acts 5:29b))
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Alex Murphy; TSgt; RnMomof7; HarleyD; wmfights; the_conscience; Dutchboy88; Quix; ...
One of the most important parts of that defense is to help people understand that the Church is not a monolith. It is composed of different entities that operate with relative autonomy and make their own decisions about the hiring and firing of personnel. Thus, just because a priest is a member of a religious order, it does not make him an employee of the Holy See.

I agree that this is baloney. When it comes to dogma and earthly authority, etc. all we hear is the monolithic "always and everywhere believed". But when the lawsuits come then suddenly "always and everywhere believed" is tossed out the window in favor of "different entities that operate with relative autonomy". We've heard the argument a thousand times that only Catholicism is true Christianity BECAUSE of its never-changing monolithic beliefs and central authority. Consequently, they criticize Protestantism BECAUSE of its actual relative autonomy. Regardless of their success or failure on this legal matter, the hypocrisy is staggering.

It was interesting to note that the lawyer in the article appeared very confident in his position and treated the case as a mere nuisance suit. It appears that he is resting his laurels on the legal status of the Holy See as a sovereign governmental entity. Indeed, according to the U.S. State Department:

"The Holy See is the universal government of the Catholic Church and operates from the Vatican City State, a sovereign, independent territory of 0.44 square kilometers (0.17 square miles). The Pope is the ruler of both the Vatican City State and the Holy See. The Holy See, as the supreme body of government of the Catholic Church, is a sovereign juridical entity under international law."

It appears their position is that the only employees (or almost only) of the Holy See work in Vatican City, and that all others are the equivalent of independent contractors. Morally of course this position is completely disingenuous because their claims of superiority stem in part from their rejection of local independence.

Legally, though, their technical argument may carry the day. I would not be so confident as their attorney, however, since the governmental status of the Holy See is so unique. For example, their revenue sources, sales and voluntary contributions, are unlike those of any other government in the world. So with their technical status notwithstanding, they sure function and act much more like corporation than a government, especially with regard to their exercise of authority. These are uncharted waters and given the right circumstances anything could happen.

The SCOTUS has given some guidance on the employee-IC distinction. In United States v. Silk, 331 U.S. 704 (1947), these (relevant here) factors were mentioned as important: (1) the degree of control exercised by the supposed employer; (2) the degree to which the supposed employee's opportunity for profit and loss is determined by the supposed employer; (3) the skill and initiative required in performing the job; and (4)the permanency of the relationship. ----- The Court noted that its list was not exhaustive or conclusive, however, by these factors there certainly appears to be a legitimate case for establishing an employee relationship.

Be that as it may, if nothing else this case further exposes the outrageous and hypocritical moral claims of superiority by the Catholic Church. From CCC 2032:

The Church, the "pillar and bulwark of the truth," "has received this solemn command of Christ from the apostles to announce the saving truth." "To the Church belongs the right always and everywhere to announce moral principles, including those pertaining to the social order, and to make judgments on any human affairs to the extent that they are required by the fundamental rights of the human person or the salvation of souls." (emphasis added)

Think about the legal tactics and loopholes being used by Vatican lawyers in this and other cases and then think about the Catholic Church's "right always and everywhere to announce moral principles, ... and to make judgments on any human affairs". Then try to eat something. :)

37 posted on 07/01/2010 9:11:21 AM PDT by Forest Keeper ((It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.))
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To: the_conscience
It is your responsibility to make sure the agent you hire conducts business in accordance with the law!

I don't know of any reason that wouldn't apply to a church.

38 posted on 07/01/2010 9:15:04 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Forest Keeper
Thanks for the detail in your post. I can't help but notice how quiet this thread is now that it's just about the facts of the case.
39 posted on 07/01/2010 9:22:07 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Forest Keeper
Think about the legal tactics and loopholes being used by Vatican lawyers in this and other cases and then think about the Catholic Church's "right always and everywhere to announce moral principles, ... and to make judgments on any human affairs". Then try to eat something. :)

Thank you for sharing your insights, dear brother in Christ!

40 posted on 07/01/2010 9:24:10 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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