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New heaven and a new earth (21:1)

Posted on 06/29/2010 9:35:03 AM PDT by Ancient Drive

Rev 21:1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away."


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does this mean the sea will no longer exist? how would the climate change if the entire earth were just rivers and lakes with no seas? would it be a giant rain forest?
1 posted on 06/29/2010 9:35:06 AM PDT by Ancient Drive
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To: Ancient Drive

If there is no death, will there still be reproduction?


2 posted on 06/29/2010 9:39:24 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: Ancient Drive
Good question.. Who's to know all that..
I Cor 2;9 speaks to that...
3 posted on 06/29/2010 9:41:29 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: stuartcr; tx_eggman
will there still be reproduction

If not, it ain't my idea of heaven ;)
4 posted on 06/29/2010 9:41:38 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (In 2012 you will awaken from your HOPEnosis and have no recollection of this... "Constitution")
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To: stuartcr

I believe reproduction is part of the plan. once we are purified and fill the earth according to God’s plan, we may have to populate other planets. There are billions of star systems out there.


5 posted on 06/29/2010 9:45:43 AM PDT by Ancient Drive (DRINK COFFEE! - Do Stupid Things Faster with More Energy!)
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To: SpinnerWebb

Might get crowded with no death...


6 posted on 06/29/2010 9:46:04 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: Ancient Drive

It will be a ‘new’ heaven and earth, and there are things we aren’t meant to know now.


7 posted on 06/29/2010 9:46:39 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping List-freepmail me to be included or removed. <{{{><)
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To: hosepipe

good point. but God did give us imagination... and hope.


8 posted on 06/29/2010 9:47:21 AM PDT by Ancient Drive (DRINK COFFEE! - Do Stupid Things Faster with More Energy!)
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"If there is no death, will there still be reproduction?"

Probably not since Jesus said there will be no marriage in Heaven.

9 posted on 06/29/2010 9:48:20 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Ancient Drive

Who knows? The details of prophecy are often less relevant than many seem to think. What will be will be.

Just ask Him when you get there.

SnakeDoc


10 posted on 06/29/2010 9:55:14 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("Shut it down" ... 00:00:03 ... 00:00:02 ... 00:00:01 ... 00:00:00.)
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To: Ancient Drive
I believe reproduction is part of the plan. once we are purified and fill the earth according to God’s plan, we may have to populate other planets. There are billions of star systems out there.

I think you have about as much of a chance of figuring out the praxis of the new heavens (so much for those billions of star systems out there now) and new earth as a day old zygote does of predicting the pleasures of Port Salut cheese, symphonic music, and building a multinational business.
11 posted on 06/29/2010 9:56:41 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Ancient Drive

“...once we are purified and fill the earth according to God’s plan, we may have to populate other planets.”

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The offsprings will all be purified at birth? Then Jesus as Saviour will be superfluous. I don’t think so.


12 posted on 06/29/2010 9:58:16 AM PDT by 353FMG (ISLAM - America's assured road to destruction.)
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To: Ancient Drive

“does this mean the sea will no longer exist? how would the climate change if the entire earth were just rivers and lakes with no seas? would it be a giant rain forest?”

Like many of the illustrations in Revelations, symbolism is involved. The “sea” is symbolic of peoples and nations of people.


13 posted on 06/29/2010 10:25:59 AM PDT by howlinhound (Live your life so that, when you get up in the morning, Satan says, "Crap!..He's awake" - Unknown)
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To: aruanan
I think you have about as much of a chance of figuring out the praxis of the new heavens (so much for those billions of star systems out there now) and new earth as a day old zygote does of predicting the pleasures of Port Salut cheese, symphonic music, and building a multinational business.

Erudite Dissent Medal of the Day (with Gastronomic Cluster).

14 posted on 06/29/2010 10:28:05 AM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Ancient Drive

I would like to stay here and pitch for the Cleveland Indians.


15 posted on 06/29/2010 10:50:43 AM PDT by dartuser ("Palin 2012 ... nothing else will do.")
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To: Ancient Drive

OK, thanks


16 posted on 06/29/2010 12:58:01 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: circlecity

Didn’t people reproduce before there were marriages?


17 posted on 06/29/2010 1:00:10 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: aruanan
I think you have about as much of a chance of figuring out the praxis of the new heavens (so much for those billions of star systems out there now) and new earth as a day old zygote does of predicting the pleasures of Port Salut cheese, symphonic music, and building a multinational business.

Agreed. The word picture I was given was:

It would be like trying to explain Quantum Physics to an earthworm.

18 posted on 06/29/2010 1:04:21 PM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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"Didn’t people reproduce before there were marriages?"

No. The first child ever (Cain) came after the marriage of Adam and Eve. Thus no reproduction ever occured prior to the institution of marriage. Also, sex outside marriage is a sin and there will be no sin in Heaven. Thus, since we know there is no marriage in Heaven there would have to be a whole new method of reproduction introduced for there to be reproduction in Heaven.

19 posted on 06/29/2010 1:05:19 PM PDT by circlecity
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how would the climate change if the entire earth were just rivers and lakes with no seas? would it be a giant rain forest?”

Like many of the illustrations in Revelations, symbolism is involved. The “sea” is symbolic of peoples and nations of people.

Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

The sea is symbolic of chaos ... and it will be done away with.

20 posted on 06/29/2010 1:08:18 PM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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