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To: svcw

“Sandy has no idea what lds really believe or teach based on her own words here on FR. “

This is what I believe and the official doctrine of my Church:

The Articles of Faith
of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.

We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam’s transgression.

We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.

We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.

We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.

We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.

We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.

We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.

We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.

We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.

We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.

We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.

We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

Joseph Smith


1,233 posted on 06/16/2010 12:13:07 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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To: Saundra Duffy
Interesting Sandra...and hello...I am new on this thread and have noticed you are like the wind as you pass thru..... so I haven't responded much. But I took note you love Christ Jesus.....and also believe in this post listing Joseph Smiths beliefs....though he is speaking for the “we” I see that you agree.

I know you understand where I stand on the side of your mormon beliefs, but I also believe there are true Christians in all religions, some stay there for a time, others move ahead as they grow and understand the things of God more deeply. And still others stay because they like the people no matter what the church is teaching...for them it's enough to just be there among friends. It's this way in all churches and gatherings.

But for others there is an uneasiness, nothing bad just a sense that God might be wanting more from them and He might be jiggling them a bit to consider what that could be.... I might be wrong and forgive me if i am speaking out of turn here, but you strike me as in that place.

Well, nice to see you passing thru like the wind again....maybe you'll rest longer here before you take flight again the next trip around.

CW

1,259 posted on 06/16/2010 1:17:21 PM PDT by caww
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To: Saundra Duffy
I stand by my statement, because you post what you do about your belief in Jesus, which is contrary to what lds teach.

Sandy, if the Bible is True then there was no need for restoration.

Sandy, if the Bible is not True then there was a need for restoration.

lds can not have it both ways.

IE: We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.

1,283 posted on 06/16/2010 3:34:44 PM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: Saundra Duffy
We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.

We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth. and so forth.

HMMmm...

THIs sure sounds VERY ambigious.

Just what kinds of things slide in under THESE two clauses??

1,286 posted on 06/16/2010 3:40:48 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Saundra Duffy
We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.

Them why does the LDS religious Organization have:

1. Living Prophet®

2. First Presidency.

3. Quorum of Twelve

4. Elders

5. Bishops

6. Stake Presidents

7. Quorum of Seventy...

1,287 posted on 06/16/2010 3:46:04 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Saundra Duffy
We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.

Them why does the LDS religious Organization have:

1. Living Prophet®

2. First Presidency.

3. Quorum of Twelve

4. Elders

5. Bishops

6. Stake Presidents

7. Quorum of Seventy...

1,288 posted on 06/16/2010 3:46:39 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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