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OFFICIAL DECLARATION—2 (Mormon church/Blacks)
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Posted on 06/09/2010 4:58:10 PM PDT by greyfoxx39

OFFICIAL DECLARATION—2
To Whom It May Concern:
On September 30, 1978, at the 148th Semiannual General Conference of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the following was presented by President N. Eldon Tanner, First Counselor in the First Presidency of the Church:
In early June of this year, the First Presidency announced that a revelation had been received by President Spencer W. Kimball extending priesthood and temple blessings to all worthy male members of the Church. President Kimball has asked that I advise the conference that after he had received this revelation, which came to him after extended meditation and prayer in the sacred rooms of the holy temple, he presented it to his counselors, who accepted it and approved it. It was then presented to the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, who unanimously approved it, and was subsequently presented to all other General Authorities, who likewise approved it unanimously.
President Kimball has asked that I now read this letter:
 
June 8, 1978
To all general and local priesthood officers of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints throughout the world:
Dear Brethren:
As we have witnessed the expansion of the work of the Lord over the earth, we have been grateful that people of many nations have responded to the message of the restored gospel, and have joined the Church in ever-increasing numbers. This, in turn, has inspired us with a desire to extend to every worthy member of the Church all of the privileges and blessings which the gospel affords.
Aware of the promises made by the prophets and presidents of the Church who have preceded us that at some time, in God’s eternal plan, all of our brethren who are worthy may receive the priesthood, and witnessing the faithfulness of those from whom the priesthood has been withheld, we have pleaded long and earnestly in behalf of these, our faithful brethren, spending many hours in the Upper Room of the Temple supplicating the Lord for divine guidance.
He has heard our prayers, and by revelation has confirmed that the long-promised day has come when every faithful, worthy man in the Church may receive the holy priesthood, with power to exercise its divine authority, and enjoy with his loved ones every blessing that flows therefrom, including the blessings of the temple. Accordingly, all worthy male members of the Church may be ordained to the priesthood without regard for race or color. Priesthood leaders are instructed to follow the policy of carefully interviewing all candidates for ordination to either the Aaronic or the Melchizedek Priesthood to insure that they meet the established standards for worthiness.
We declare with soberness that the Lord has now made known his will for the blessing of all his children throughout the earth who will hearken to the voice of his authorized servants, and prepare themselves to receive every blessing of the gospel.
Sincerely yours,

Spencer W. Kimball
N. Eldon Tanner
Marion G. Romney

The First Presidency
Recognizing Spencer W. Kimball as the prophet, seer, and revelator, and president of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, it is proposed that we as a constituent assembly accept this revelation as the word and will of the Lord. All in favor please signify by raising your right hand. Any opposed by the same sign.
The vote to sustain the foregoing motion was unanimous in the affirmative.
Salt Lake City, Utah, September 30, 1978.


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To: greyfoxx39
God had to be "supplicated" to change this doctrine, He really wasn't convinced but they sold Him on the idea.

I guess that just PROVES that MORMONs REALLY do NOT believe what GOD says is GOOD for them!

41 posted on 06/10/2010 12:18:31 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...))
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To: Ripliancum
 My mom did too, I can remember it, remember where I was and her reaction.

 
Speaking of black people...
 
It appears that OTHER MORMONs; high RANKING ones; did NOT cry; but rather SPUN!
 



 

"You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind.

The first man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his brethren will be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings.

This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is pronounced upon the same race--that they should be the 'servant of servants', and they will be, until that curse is removed."

Brigham Young-President and second 'Prophet' of the Mormon Church, 1844-1877- Extract from Journal of Discourses.



Here are two examples from their 'other testament', the Book of Mormon.

  2 Nephi 5: 21    'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'

  Alma 3: 6    'And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.'



 

August 27, 1954 in an address at Brigham Young University (BYU), Mormon Elder, Mark E Peterson, in speaking to a convention of teachers of religion at the college level, said:

"The discussion on civil rights, especially over the last 20 years, has drawn some very sharp lines. It has blinded the thinking of some of our own people, I believe. They have allowed their political affiliations to color their thinking to some extent.I think I have read enough to give you an idea of what the Negro is after."

"He is not just seeking the opportunity of sitting down in a cafe where white people eat. He isn't just trying to ride on the same streetcar or the same Pullman car with white people. It isn't that he just desires to go to the same theater as the white people. From this, and other interviews I have read, it appears that the Negro seeks absorption with the white race. He will not be satisfied until he achieves it by intermarriage."

"That is his objective and we must face it. We must not allow our feelings to carry us away, nor must we feel so sorry for Negroes that we will open our arms and embrace them with everything we have. Remember the little statement that we used to say about sin, 'First we pity, then endure, then embrace'...."

(Rosa Parks would have probably told Petersen under which wheel of the bus he should go sit.)



 1967, (then) Mormon President Ezra Taft Benson said,

"The Communist program for revolution in America has been in progress for many years and is far advanced. First of all, we must not place the blame upon Negroes. They are merely the unfortunate group that has been selected by professional Communist agitators to be used as the primary source of cannon fodder."



We are told that on June 8, 1978, it was 'revealed' to the then president, Spencer Kimball, that people of color could now gain entry into the priesthood.

According to the church, Kimball spent many long hours petitioning God, begging him to give worthy black people the priesthood. God finally relented.



Sometime before the 'revelation' came to chief 'Prophet' Spencer Kimball in June 1978, General Authority, Bruce R McConkie had said:

"The Blacks are denied the Priesthood; under no circumstances can they hold this delegation of authority from the Almighty.

The Negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow there from, but this inequality is not of man's origin, it is the Lord's doings."

(Mormon Doctrine, pp. 526-527).



When Mormon 'Apostle' Mark E Petersen spoke on 'Race Problems- As they affect the Church' at the BYU campus in 1954, the following was also said:

"...if the negro accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a servant, but he will get celestial glory."



When Mormon 'Prophet' and second President of the Church, Brigham Young, spoke in 1863 the following was also said:

"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God is death on the spot. This will always be so."

(Journal of Discourses, Vo. 10, p. 110)



42 posted on 06/10/2010 12:21:01 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...))
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To: Tennessee Nana
 
In 1969, after McKay’s health failed, and some others within the church leadership thought the doctrinal basis for the exclusion of people of African ancestry from the priesthood was shaky,
 



 WHAT!!??
 
 
Don't they BELIEVE their own SCRIPTURES???


Here are two examples from their 'other testament', the Book of Mormon.

  2 Nephi 5: 21    'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'

  Alma 3: 6    'And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.'



 

 



When Mormon 'Prophet' and second President of the Church, Brigham Young, spoke in 1863 the following was also said:

"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God is death on the spot. This will always be so."

(Journal of Discourses, Vo. 10, p. 110)



43 posted on 06/10/2010 12:26:38 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...))
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To: restornu
Romney said it was tears of joy not a great disappointment please if you don’t know it is best to be still!

FINALLY!!

A reason that you do NOT comment on what JS alledgly learned to be UNTRUE about PRESBYTERIANism!

44 posted on 06/10/2010 12:28:37 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...))
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To: restornu
 
Gee to some everythings has to be posted as distorted and vicious when dealing with Mormons!
 
 
Yup!
 
MORMONs sure come across that way alright!


http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/17#17

  17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
  18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
  19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”
  20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother,
“I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.”
 
 
And, continuing thru the years, the high ranking leaders of that Organization have done the same!
 
Joseph Smith continues: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith-History 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).
 
Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).
 
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).
 
Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).
 
Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses, 18:172).
 
President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses, 10:127).
James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).
 
President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
 
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).
 
President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
 
President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p.196).
 
 

45 posted on 06/10/2010 12:30:35 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...))
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To: restornu
But the opposition was known to speak half truths!

Not PRESBYTERIANS!

They, evidently in JS' mind, were ALL UNTRUE - nothing HALFway about them!

46 posted on 06/10/2010 12:33:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...))
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To: restornu
It seems Romney is mention on these LDS threads for bait

And the Romneybots BITE every time!

47 posted on 06/10/2010 12:34:27 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...))
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To: Saundra Duffy
Mitt Romney campaigned for Meg Whitman in CA and she will be our next governor.

Even a blind squirrel can find a nut every now and then!

48 posted on 06/10/2010 12:35:40 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...))
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To: Elsie
But even when I was a grown woman living in Alameda, I remember this Southern Baptist guy making all kinds of racist remarks about Black people

You have a GOOD memory!

Do you REMEMBER any of THESE choice items ever being taught in you MORMONism classes?

49 posted on 06/10/2010 12:37:27 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...))
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To: Saundra Duffy
One minor little issue with your theory there SD. While racism was present in some areas and individual Christians and still is to a much smaller degree today, it was and is not “official”. It is not art of the actual doctrine and it did not take a “revelation from god” to tell people it was and is wrong.

Indeed the Mormon god himself was a racist.

Until 1978 of course...

51 posted on 06/10/2010 4:23:06 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Christians: Stand for Christ or stand aside...)
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To: restornu

Huh?

You are making less sense than usual there Resty...


52 posted on 06/10/2010 4:23:55 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Christians: Stand for Christ or stand aside...)
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To: restornu; Religion Moderator

Is SOMEone wanting kicked off of THIS thread?

Per #50


53 posted on 06/10/2010 5:54:37 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...))
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To: daniel1212
Whenever mortal man assumes authority over the Scriptures, and to make another revelation equal in authority to them, then the former will be misused and misconstrued, and the latter will contradict the former.

WHAT HE SAID!

54 posted on 06/10/2010 6:33:21 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Abortion: one dead, one wounded.)
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To: Saundra Duffy; restornu
I was also rasied in the south and the racism was RAMPANT. I remember the big hulla-ballo when blacks were allowed to enter the hallowed halls of Jerry Falwell's Baptist Church.

It was all very ugly.

HOWEVER!!!! IT WAS NEVER WRITTEN INTO CHRISTIAN SCRIPTURE!!!!!

55 posted on 06/10/2010 6:38:32 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Abortion: one dead, one wounded.)
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To: restornu

What’s wrong with you? Ask the mod to get rid of that for Pete’s sake.


56 posted on 06/10/2010 6:41:23 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Abortion: one dead, one wounded.)
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To: restornu; Saundra Duffy
Resty, you quoted me this last night:

We spoke with a limited understanding and without the light and knowledge that now has come into the world. ~ Bruce R. McConkie

I thought everything in your Mormon scripture was a revelation from God himself! So who got it wrong? God, or man?

If God, how can you continue to follow such a weak and wishy-washy god?

If man, then how do you know that what they presently teach is true?

So, what light and knowlege has come into the world between the time the Mormons taught that blacks were not worthy, and 1978? Eh?

57 posted on 06/10/2010 6:48:23 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Abortion: one dead, one wounded.)
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To: restornu
Romney said it was tears of joy

Tears of joy that they had finally gotten God to see the error of His ways and do the right thing?

58 posted on 06/10/2010 6:55:00 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Abortion: one dead, one wounded.)
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To: Godzilla; restornu

See my post 57. Resty gave me the McKookie quote you were looking for.


59 posted on 06/10/2010 6:56:13 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Abortion: one dead, one wounded.)
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To: Saundra Duffy

“I was raised a Southern Baptist in Missouri and I don’t remember Black people being allowed to attend our services.”

Do you remember them being excluded by OFFICIAL DOCTRINE OF THE CHURCH - LIKE THE MORMONIC CHURCH’S INSTITUTIONAL RACISM???


60 posted on 06/10/2010 7:12:43 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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