Posted on 06/02/2010 1:47:13 PM PDT by reaganaut
Jesus of Nazareth, also known as Jesus Christ, or simply Jesus, is the central figure of Christianity. The life and sermons of Jesus form the basis of the Christian faith. Jesus Christ is recognized by believing Christians as God incarnate, the Son of God who was raised from the dead—the Redeemer of mankind—the most important figure in history.
According to Mormon doctrine, Jesus Christ is the Savior of the world. However, it seems that even the perceived Savior of the world is not exempt from LDS temple rituals. Proxy rites for Jesus Christ were performed in the Salt Lake (LDS) Temple in Utah, in April 2010. The Salt Lake Temple, located on Temple Square in the heart of Mormon-dominated Salt Lake City, was dedicated on April 6, 1893—three years before Utah became a state in 1896—and is one of the oldest of the 132 currently operating temples that are owned and maintained by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS.)
New FamilySearch is the online genealogy database of the LDS Church that contains updated details of LDS temple ordinances that have been done for dead people. There are multiple listings for Jesus Christ in New FamilySearch—under different versions of his identity—which have been submitted by individual Mormons. It is not known how many times Jesus has been subjected to LDS rites because all New FamilySearch records for him—including combined records—show LDS ordinance details as “Not Available.”
On May 27, 2010, there were two similar records for Jesus in New FamilySearch which had been submitted by the same person. One listing was titled “Jesus Christian,” and showed “Jesus Christian” was born “before 1500 Bethlehem, Israel,” and died “before 1550 Jerusalem, Israel.” LDS ordinances were tagged as “Not available” on this record. The other entry was for “Jesus Cristian,” who was born “before 1502 Bethlehem, Israel,” and died “before 1539 Jerusalem, Israel.” The entry for “Jesus Cristian” gave a description of LDS ordinances, along with the name of a spouse—“Maria Magdelena.”
“Jesus Cristian” was baptized and confirmed a member of the LDS Church by proxy on April 8, 2010 in the “Salt Lake City Utah Temple.” “Jesus Cristian” was also subjected to initiatory temple ordinances on April 8, 2010; an endowment ceremony on April 9, 2010; and a marriage “sealing” to “spouse” “Maria Magdelena” on April 9, 2010—all rites occurred in the “Salt Lake City Utah Temple.”
It appears the submissions for “Jesus Christian,” and “Jesus Cristian” were attempts to manipulate the identity of Jesus Christ through the LDS temple system. The misspelled “Cristian,” instead of “Christian,” could have been a typo, or a deliberate error. It may have been intentionally entered as “Cristian” to get around a computer program that automatically blocks submissions that contain the names “Jesus Christ.” That would explain why the entry for “Jesus Christian” shows LDS ordinances as “Not available.”
While both New FamilySearch records in question lack complete birth and death data, and give imprecise “before” years of these events—the first name “Jesus” combined with the surnames “Christian” and “Cristian” (both spins on the name of “Christ”) are signs that “Jesus Christian” and “Jesus Cristian” are pseudonyms for Jesus Christ.
Other indicators on the New FamilySearch records that point to Jesus Christ are the birth place, “Bethlehem,” and the death location, “Jerusalem.” (Jesus Christ was born in Bethlehem and died outside the walls of old Jerusalem.) Another clue to the identity of “Jesus Cristian” is the name of his “spouse”—“Maria Magdelena,” a misspelled variant of Mary Magdalene. “Maria Magdelena” is not listed on the “Jesus Christian” record.
Because “Jesus Christian” and “Jesus Cristian” have similar names and identical birth and death locations—“Bethlehem” and “Jerusalem,” they are probably the same person. Their birth and death years are similar, but not the same. The estimated dates listed for these events look like they have been fabricated. According to their New FamilySearch records, “Jesus Christian” and “Jesus Cristian” were born and died in the 16th century. “Jesus Christian” lived roughly 50 years, while “Jesus Cristian” died in his thirties.
On May 27, 2010, “Maria Magdelena” was listed in New FamilySearch with her birth date as “1504 Israel,” and death date as “before 1540 Israel.” Both years are likely inventions. Along with “spouse” “Jesus Cristian,” “Maria Magdelena” was baptized and confirmed a member of the LDS Church by proxy on April 8, 2010 in the “Salt Lake City Utah Temple.” She was subjected to initiatory temple ordinances on April 8, 2010; an endowment ceremony on April 9, 2010; and the marriage “sealing” to “Jesus Cristian” on April 9, 2010—all rites were done in the “Salt Lake City Utah Temple.”
Mary Magdalene is described in the New Testament as a faithful follower of Jesus. Because the concept of marriage is strongly emphasized in LDS teachings, the notion that a spousal relationship existed between Jesus and Mary Magdalene is common among Mormons—although that belief is not formal LDS doctrine. There is no reliable historical evidence to indicate that Jesus was married—to Mary Magdalene, or anyone else.
LDS Church officials have publicly stated that the New FamilySearch program is a technological deterrent to improper submissions. Yet—under their very noses—on Temple Square in Salt Lake City, Jesus Christ—under a false name—two millennia after his birth, was offered Mormon salvation and an erroneous eternal marriage sealing.
Sometime late in the day on May 27, 2010, the individual entries for “Jesus Cristian” and “Maria Magdelena” were scrubbed from New FamilySearch—concealing the evidence that LDS rites had recently been performed for these two names in the Salt Lake Temple. The sudden disappearance of these records is a strong indication that “Jesus Cristian” and “Maria Magdelena” represent Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene.
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I didn’t ask if “the Seer” was “official LDS Doctrine. I asked if the words by the LDS apostle were heinous.
Strawmen arguments don’t get very far on FreeRepublic.
I thank God I know so much about mormonism to help them stay way away from that evil cult...
It will help. Part of the reason my family’s ‘intervention’ was such an epic fail was they (and their pastor) didn’t really know anything about Mormonism.
Know your Bible and know your enemy.
Your the claimed to be the Historian check yourself after all what the LDS says you always dismiss so let see you dismiss other religious sources!
I am asking specifically what YOU meant when you said (back in post #231): If such a thing did ocurred it would have been done during the time Jesus lived on earth they did have temples in those days.
Now when you said that did you mean that you believe they used the temples for similar or same ordinances as the LDS use temples today?
It is a yes or no question. Why are you obfuscating?
I do know the answer from a historical viewpoint, but I want to know what you meant when you said that.
What a crazy headline! I had to come online the thread to see who the nutso author was.
I think I will let you ponder that for a while (BC Baptism)
I think I will let you ponder that for a while (BC Baptism)
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As I said I am familiar with the Jewish Mikveh.
Now answer the question. What ordinances were done in the ancient temples? are they the same or similar to the ones done in modern LDS temples.
c’mon, I want to know what YOU meant. You accuse me of reading your mind, and instead I am asking you to elaborate, you should be grateful.
lol. You can say that again. The author is a woman who keeps tabs on who the LDS do temple work for. She is the one who discovered Hitler, the holocaust victims, Obama’s mother and several others.
I never mention temple!
I never mention temple! [Resty]
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Sorry, resty. not even a good try. You specifically mention temples in regards to the temple work being for Jesus when He was here on the earth. My question is WHAT WERE THE ORDINANCES THAT WERE DONE IN THE TEMPLE AT THE TIME JESUS LIVED ON THE EARTH.
This really is not a hard question.
your post #231: “If such a thing did ocurred it would have been done during the time Jesus lived on earth they did have temples in those days.” [Resty]
Wow, I mean, wow...
Resty blew that one...
The thing is, I am specifically asking resty to elaborate so she doesn’t accuse me of trying to read her mind.
I am trying to be nice. Sigh.
At least you got her dead to rights on an obvious denial.
That “stay sweet” business is simply eery. It has always made me uncomfortable when I think about it.
If my husband was FLDS and said that to me, I swear I’d attack him with a cast iron skillet and win!
If you would just quit insisting this whacko play-acting is anything resembling Christianity, most people would. You don't see anti-Islam threads on here do you? Most people here are quite solidly against the Muslim religion, but Muslims are not masquerading as Christians.
Sandy: Would you please stop saying heinous things about my Savior. Thank you
What? What are you saying Sandy, that polygamy is "HEINOUS"? It was good enough for the founder of your religion and all his cronies, or is that also a heinous thing to say? Do you deny that JS taught it, practiced it, mandated it?
Didn't he RESTORE the gospel after the Christians stripped away all the good parts back in the first and second century? How could he have been good enough to "save" you if he didn't meet and exceed the requirements, the PLAIN AND PRECIOUS TRUTHS?
You GO, PYW! NO wait, please STAY!
YOu should get on their site and look for your own family and friends, it’s hilarious. They have my parents, who are alive and still kickin’, as having been born in 1899 and married in 1919.
They were very amused.
And I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal with us in the things they boast about. For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ.
ME TOO!!!!
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