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To: Salvation

Think of it as a block of ice on a hot frying pan. The water, ice and steam exist in the same general area and are made of the same molecules, but they’re in different states and act differently.


3 posted on 05/30/2010 2:32:34 PM PDT by NorthStarStateConservative (I'm just another disabled naturalized minority vegan pro life conservative.)
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To: NorthStarStateConservative

Excellent example. I used that with children before to illustrate the solid, liquid and gas theories of matter!


4 posted on 05/30/2010 2:41:42 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NorthStarStateConservative

Silly example to support the trinity being one god.

Steam is not water and water is not ice and ice is not steam.

God is not Jesus, Jesus is not holy spirit, and Jesus is not God.

Or else the term Son of God and no meaning if God and Jesus are equivalent terms and can be used interchangeably.

Scriptures clearly state that God is invisible and that no man has seen God at any time.

Scriptures clearly state that God is not a man and that God cannot be tempted with evil.

The man Christ Jesus, is the mediator between men and God. Jesus is the visible representation of the invisible God. Jesus was tempted in all ways.

God called Jesus his son. Jesus called God his father.

I tend to believe that God and Jesus knew who they and each other were. However we humans needed to hold council in nicea to elect Jesus to an office to which he never aspired.


14 posted on 05/30/2010 5:43:42 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: NorthStarStateConservative

The 3 forms of water, Ice, liquid and steam, are not quite the same as one God in 3 persons—and if we take that example too literally, it can lead us to “modalism” probably the most common mistake people make about God in trinity.

Modalism, like the name, says that God has 3 modes, or ways of relating to us...either as a Father, or a Son or a Spirit. However, that would also place a person, behind and unknowable, behind the modes or masks.... and each role or mode...as a kind of disguise or deception of the real person.

Classic trinitarianism though acknowledges 3 real persons...each of whom is equally the one God. When/if you come to know one, you do know all 3...but each person is, as the text beautifully says above, “more truly personal than any of us” in a perfect union of Love with each of the other two, so much so they are one being...and that way from all eternity.

That is quite different than the modes of ice, water and steam.....


19 posted on 05/30/2010 8:54:45 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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