I was upset with a substitute priest at Mass

[Sun]

When my husband and I went to Mass last evening, unfortunately our parish priest was ill, so a guest priest said Mass.

When he read the Gospel, he changed He to she. Later the substitute priest said we really don't know if the Holy Spirit is a he or a she.

Later he said, wouldn't the altar girl make a good priest some day, even though the Vatican said women priests is a closed issue. It won't happen.

There were a few other things, but those were the things that bothered me the most.

Here is the gospel, where he changed He to she:

"Jesus said to his disciples: "I have much more to tell you, but you cannot bear it now. But when he comes, the Spirit of truth, he will guide you to all truth. He will not speak on his own, but he will speak what he hears, and will declare to you the things that are coming. He will glorify me, because he will take from what is mine and declare it to you. Everything that the Father has is mine; for this reason I told you that he will take from what is mine and declare it to you."

[Salvation]

Mystery of the Trinity

And it had this one line -- which takes in your unorthodox priest today.

**We might smirk at the ancients, but we have a very similar problem today.  It flows from a philosophy called relativism, **

[Salvation]

The article I just linked also has these lines:

Yet the Bible insists, and the Catholic Church along with it, that there is only one God. And that God is not an “it”, some impersonal “force”, but a “Him,” more truly personal than any of us. In fact He is so personal, that from all eternity He is interpersonal–three persons in perfect union of will and activity, so perfect that they are truly One God, not three.

[packrat35]

The United Methodists did this years ago was why I quit the church.

[kosta50]

I don’t believe a word you wrote. Why don’t you give his name, and the name and location of his parish if this is true?

[mware]

kost, I very much believe Sun. Quite a few of us have told of our experiences at Mass with priests.

Believe me the liberation theologians are out there,

[kosta50]

kost, I very much believe Sun

That's your privilege and choice. I don't buy into when and where it happened, the name of the priest, the location of the church, and the name of his parish.

[kosta50]

sorry, something got garbled in my previous message. It should read:

kost, I very much believe Sun

That's your privilege and choice. I don't buy into ancedotal tales. Let's have all the facts: when and where it happened, the name of the priest, the location of the church, and the name of his parish.

[mware]

Of course that is your right, but understand that this was a substitute priest. Perhaps Sun wants to speak with her priest before making the name of the parish public.

No one wants to cause scandal in their parish if they can avoid it.

[BenKenobi]

I was a protestant. I have always loved the Church, even before I was in communion with her.

There’s simply no reason to hate the Church and what she stands for, especially not by those who claim to be fellow protestants.

[Sgt_Schultze]

Now that was funny

[BenKenobi]

It’s really a silly argument, and one put forth by English speaking people only. God is a man, more truly man than we ourselves are shadow and in imitation of Him.

For we are made in his image, not he in ours.

[Bigg Red]

My husband is going to call the Bishop’s office to report it.

^^^
Excellent. The Church is in need of a big purging.

[chris_bdba]

Good! he should not be aloowed to preach what is contrary to doctrine. If he wants to do that he should covert to another religion.

[Bigg Red]

I suggest you attend the Mass this heretic is saying and then get up and walk out in a very obvious way when he says something like this. Perhaps others will follow.

[goat granny]

I would have gotten up out of the pew and left when he said such things....If he was at the back of the church shaking hands to those that left, a good laugh in his face and tell him that was the funniest sermon and reading I'd ever heard...Then I would have asked him what religion he belong to....laughing in the face of such a idiot is the best way to handle them.....I left the church a long time ago, but still respect much of its teachings...A heretic is a heretic and preaching his own opinions is not what a priest is suppose to be doing...

[Bigg Red]

Good answer!

[kosta50]

No one wants to cause scandal in their parish if they can avoid it

I think it's a little too late for that. You don't think it was scandalous for a priest to refer to the Holy Spirit as a "she?" Okay, then, Sun is more than welcome to send me the name of the priest and his parish via PM. I won't divulge it publicly.

[Sun]

Thanks for the link, and I will save it for future reference. Again, from the link, this snip:

“and even then-Roman Catholic Cardinal of New York John O’Connor.”

http://www.talkradio101.com/smforum/index.php?topic=1206.0

If we are to judge a person by their enemies, and I do, it shows what a good man Cardinal O’Connor is when the Clinton crime couple is his enemy.

[Sun]

Thank you.

[mware]

Yes my FRiend I do think it was scandalous what happen at Sun's parish, but it was not the regular priest that caused the scandal.

I think he deserves the chance to address the issue, although I would also report the event to the Bishop.