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What happens to the soul of a jew upon death
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Posted on 05/16/2010 5:24:35 PM PDT by lovesdogs

My neighbor was buried today. He was a Jewish man of devout faith. Now mind you he was no saint, he had his share of issues just like anyone else. But in his later years, he became much more involved in the temple and study of the Torah. His Rabbi was at his home every other day and sometimes every day for study and company.

I looked all over for an answer to this question and I cannot find it. My friend did not accept Christ as his savior. As a Jew he did not accept Christian belief. Can anyone help me with what will happen to his soul? Will my prayer help? I have no experience with this sort of thing and I am heartbroken with the loss of this good man.


TOPICS: Judaism; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Science
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To: Ann Archy

Throughout salvation history God expands His covenants (man, tribe, nation, world). That in no way means he breaks His covenants. In fact for God to break His covenant would mean he lied.

Guess you think God is a liar.


61 posted on 05/16/2010 5:52:29 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: lovesdogs
"What happens to the soul of a jew upon death"

I have my beliefs but I know one thing for sure. No one has ever complained afterward.

yitbos

62 posted on 05/16/2010 5:53:13 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: magritte

Magritte, do you think the church should send out missionaries?

If so, why?


63 posted on 05/16/2010 5:53:15 PM PDT by Persevero (If man evolved from monkeys and apes, why do we still have monkeys and apes?)
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To: magritte

I don’t believe you.


64 posted on 05/16/2010 5:53:18 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: lovesdogs

What happens to Mormons....Buddists....Muslims....etc, etc???


65 posted on 05/16/2010 5:53:50 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion,,,,,,the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience....)
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To: Venturer

I could not have said it better myself. It is also what I truly believe.


66 posted on 05/16/2010 5:54:15 PM PDT by oldenuff2no (Rangers lead the way...... Delta, the original European home land security)
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To: big'ol_freeper

Geesh, Jesus said he was the NEW COVENANT....I BELIEVE HIM...do you??


67 posted on 05/16/2010 5:54:39 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion,,,,,,the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience....)
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To: muawiyah
BTW, it’s not just that reincarnation let’s us discuss it over and over and over, we get to come down on all sides if this goes on long enough.

Reminds me of a story about a guy who went to a doctor with a complaint that it hurt if he turned a certain way, and the doctor told him, "well, don't do that."

God is patient.

68 posted on 05/16/2010 5:55:35 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: lovesdogs
God is perfectly loving, just, and merciful. We can trust Him to do the best thing for your friend.
69 posted on 05/16/2010 5:56:07 PM PDT by Logophile
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To: lovesdogs

Take comfort that God loves us all and would never renege on a promise.

I would recommend this book for a more theological response than I could present here. It is an amazing book:

http://www.amazon.com/Father-Who-Keeps-His-Promises/dp/0892838299


70 posted on 05/16/2010 5:57:02 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: lovesdogs

From the Bhagavad Gita; explaining the nature of the eternal soul:

There is not permanent existence for the body, and no cessation of existence for the soul. Those who can see the true nature of things see these conclusions about the body and soul.

Know that the soul which pervades the body is indestructable. No one can destroy that which is indestructable.

The soul is never born, nor does it ever die. Neither was it born in the past, nor will it be born in the future. It has no creation in the past, present or future, and no destruction in the past, present or future, and is therefore eternal. It is most ancient but not subject to ageing. It is not killed when the body is killed.


71 posted on 05/16/2010 5:57:37 PM PDT by little jeremiah (http://lifewurx.com - Good herb formulas made by a friend)
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To: lovesdogs

You don’t REALLY know that your friend didn’t accept Jesus at his death;s door.....that’s why we are not allowed to judge who went to heaven and who didn’t (EXCEPT someone who lays down his life for someone, and that is especially true of women who die in childbirth...imho...they a STRAIGHT TICKET TO HEAVEN).


72 posted on 05/16/2010 5:57:53 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion,,,,,,the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience....)
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To: lovesdogs
What happens to the soul of a jew upon death

Only God knows. God is real (this I believe); religion is manmade (this is a simple fact); and religions have been corrupt from the get-go, from top to bottom, inside and out, and will never be anything different.

73 posted on 05/16/2010 5:57:54 PM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: muawiyah
BTW, I used the correct term "manifest" ~ so you might be "manifest" as another being, or possibly even "manifest" as a demon, or, maybe as a "god" ~ (Heaven forfend, eh).

Ah yes, I mistook your meaning as "manifesting in" someone else. My mistake.

"Manifesting as" is what I - and you - meant.

Manifesting as what - LOL, indeed, that is the question!

74 posted on 05/16/2010 5:58:22 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: lovesdogs

I have had personal contact with God. I think he saved my life, not because I believed (I didn’t, especially. I’m a very cerebral, rational type), but because I’m intense about treating others right and emphasizing that with my children. If your friend was a good man who treated others right, God will take good care of his soul, nomatter what he believed. And I think that should be true for any person, of any religion, of any culture, on any place on earth. Rest your mind, my friend.


75 posted on 05/16/2010 5:59:06 PM PDT by FreeKeys (“God is a Republican, and Santa Claus is a Democrat.” -- H. L. Mencken)
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To: lovesdogs

“Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”

So, if your friend went to heaven, it was through Christ.

The believing Jews of the Old Testament were saved because they believed in the Messiah that was to come. The Jews of the New Testament were saved because they believed that the Messiah was among them.

The Jews of now are saved just the way everybody else is. By believing in Jesus.

There aren’t “two ways” of salvation, an old way and a new way. There is one Way. There always has been.

As for your beloved friend, trust the Lord Jesus with his soul. God does not make mistakes. He doesn’t make mistakes with the Arctic people another FReeper mentioned; He doesn’t make mistakes with you or me; He is perfect. And so the exact right outcome for your friend is assured.

Jesus wept at the death of his friend Lazarus and thus we know he has compassion for you in your loss.


76 posted on 05/16/2010 6:01:16 PM PDT by Persevero (If man evolved from monkeys and apes, why do we still have monkeys and apes?)
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To: lovesdogs

“What happens to the soul of a jew upon death”

It causes people to worry.


77 posted on 05/16/2010 6:02:14 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: television is just wrong; Ann Archy
You were saying ...

me either.

That means He didn't return to earth yet ... LOL ... That's an easy one to solve ... :-)

When He returns to earth it won't be something that anyone can miss. He will be going to war against Israel's enemies and He will take control of the governments of all the nations in the world.

He will set up a ruling, world-wide government, ruling as the "World King" over all nations.

Since you don't see that, as we sit here discussing the issue, you can be assured He hasn't returned yet ... :-)

Revelation Chapter 19

1 After these things I heard a loud voice of a great multitude in
heaven, saying, "Alleluia! Salvation and glory and honor and power
belong to the Lord our God!

2 For true and righteous are His judgments, because He has judged the
great harlot who corrupted the earth with her fornication; and He has
avenged on her the blood of His servants shed by her."

3 Again they said, "Alleluia! Her smoke rises up forever and ever!"

4 And the twenty-four elders and the four living creatures fell down
and worshiped God who sat on the throne, saying, "Amen! Alleluia!"

5 Then a voice came from the throne, saying, "Praise our God, all you
His servants and those who fear Him, both small and great!"

6 And I heard, as it were, the voice of a great multitude, as the sound
of many waters and as the sound of mighty thunderings, saying,
"Alleluia! For the Lord God Omnipotent reigns!

7 Let us be glad and rejoice and give Him glory, for the marriage of
the Lamb has come, and His wife has made herself ready."

8 And to her it was granted to be arrayed in fine linen, clean and
bright, for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints.

9 Then he said to me, "Write: 'Blessed are those who are called to the
marriage supper of the Lamb!' " And he said to me, "These are the true
sayings of God."

10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, "See that
you do not do that! I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren who
have the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is
the spirit of prophecy."

11 Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat
on him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and
makes war.

12 His eyes were like a flame of fire, and on His head were many
crowns. He had a name written that no one knew except Himself.

13 He was clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called
The Word of God.

14 And the armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean,
followed Him on white horses.

15 Now out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should
strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron.
He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty
God.

16 And He has on His robe and on His thigh a name written: KING OF
KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.

17 Then I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud
voice, saying to all the birds that fly in the midst of heaven, "Come
and gather together for the supper of the great God,

18 that you may eat the flesh of kings, the flesh of captains, the
flesh of mighty men, the flesh of horses and of those who sit on them,
and the flesh of all people, free and slave, both small and great."

19 And I saw the beast, the kings of the earth, and their armies,
gathered together to make war against Him who sat on the horse and
against His army.

20 Then the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who
worked signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who received
the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image. These two were
cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone.

21 And the rest were killed with the sword which proceeded from the
mouth of Him who sat on the horse. And all the birds were filled with
their flesh.


Revelation Chapter 20

1 Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key to the
bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

2 He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and
Satan, and bound him for a thousand years;

3 and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a
seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the
thousand years were finished. But after these things he must be
released for a little while.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed
to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their
witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the
beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or
on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand
years.

78 posted on 05/16/2010 6:03:56 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Persevero

Hey Persevero...of course, Christians believe that they are saving souls by sending out missionaries and should do so, despite the fact that I think accepting Christianity is a wrong turn from the truth of G-d...being a Noachide, however, I hope Christianity in the long term will turn back to its roots and all people will find the Torah once again...magritte


79 posted on 05/16/2010 6:07:37 PM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: Ann Archy
LOL

This is a great thread!

Thanks everyone!

80 posted on 05/16/2010 6:07:56 PM PDT by BARLF
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