“The Mormon works to be saved.”
That is a stupid ignorant comment. We have callings to provide service and to love one another and our communities - not because we HAVE to, but because we WANT to.
Please stop saying dumb stuff about me and my faith. As usual, you don’t know what you are talking about.
Furthermore, you are breaking the Savior’s Heart with your anti Mormon propaganda.
For the record, I have come to the conclusion that many, if not most, of the anti Mormon posters here have some kind of financial stake in promoting the anti Mormon agenda. Just look at all the books, tapes, CD’s, DVD’s, church classes, sermons, seminars, speeches, and other business enterprises that depend of promotion of anti Mormon materials.
There are no paid clergy in the LDS Church. We are all volunteers.
But I will grant you this: We are a peculiar people.
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May God bless you, Friend.
You speak like like a traditional Christian in many ways yet are in love with a most Unchristian cult that distorts the very nature of Christ for its own purpose and slanders his name with almost every pronouncement of its “prophets” as well as the staement of the vast majority of LDS members here on FR who constantly argue FOR works as a path to salvation.
It is lucky I guess that the LDS allow their marks to retain what elements of their old faith they feel comfortable with in order to maintain that membership.
Comes with the flexibility of what the LDS refer to as “doctrine”.
This is a Mormon run site, so your alleged “money grubing antis” aren't here, just Mormon fact. You may want to study up for a change. What I said is clearly supported.
http://www.jefflindsay.com/faith_works.html
And tell us all how your bishop reacts when you tell him NO.
Furthermore, you are breaking the Savior’s Heart with your anti Mormon propaganda.
Not in the least Saundra - mormons are the ones abusing the name of the Savior and defiling His all sufficient sacrifical death.
There are no paid clergy in the LDS Church. We are all volunteers.
That must be why lsd inc. can spend billions of dollars on a downtown shopping mall complex in slc eh? It is established that your president, GAs, seventies, etc recieve church money. That doesn't include the money that is laundered through the different board of directors they sit on (gee - how many boards did the first disciples sit on?). Or are you regressing to the 'hirlings of Satan' attitude?
Given your lack of knowledge of your own faith and your vitriolic protestations that bear no relation to reality I am not surprised you would make such a crazy and unsubstantiated claim.
I know of none of us who profit from this exercise in any way shape or form except the feeling we get knowing we have defended the True Christ from another one of the cult created also rans.
The fact that a few have been lead away from the dead end that is the LDS is a happy bonus as well.
HEY! WE CAN GET PAID TO POST MORMON DOCTRINE ON THE INTERNET? WHO'S HOLDING OUT ON ME? I WANT SOME OF THAT, LOL!
But they do give away 6 million a year....or some paltry number like that.
Duffy...you would be better served to find out where the rest of that money is goin.g. Ask your bishop......Let me know how that goes!
Thanks
P.S. If you need help...get back to me........
As the base article points out - not even your living mouth piece of Gods - the prophet know what they are talking about either - everything is just their 'opinion'. So what do you REALLY know saundra? Did God have a God, and that God a God too, ad infinitum? When do you know that you have done "all that you can do" in order to earn grace? If mormons reject polygamy, why is D&C Sect 132 still in existance? Are you willing to share your husband in heaven with other 'wives'? Long on the anti-mormon rant, short on what mormons believe.
So, what do they do with all that money?
I hope you 'prayed to GOD for the WISDOM' to come to this conclusion; otherwise MY check for last year's work has been lost in the mail!
Joseph Smith continues: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith-History 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?[Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'.When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'?[Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).Brigham Young stated this repeatedly:"When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73);"The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171);"With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199);"And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p.24);"Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).Orson Pratt proclaimed:"Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255)."This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses, vol.18, p.44),"But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses, 18:172).President John Taylor stated:"Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p.167);"Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses, 10:127).James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).President Joseph Fielding Smith said:"Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266)."For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear:"Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265);"Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132);"virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269);"Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).President Wilford Woodruff stated:"the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p.196).
We have callings to provide service and to love one another and our communities
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Now that’s right dumb...
and unBiblical
Furthermore, you are breaking the savior’s heart with your anti Mormon propaganda.
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Kid, Joey Smith is dead...
and he aint coming back...
He could care less that his words and doctriunes are posted here...
There are no paid clergy in the LDS Church
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But there are lots of extremely well paid CEOs
The Mormon works to be saved.”
That is a stupid ignorant comment.
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The Mormon works to be saved.”
That is a stupid ignorant type of religious legalism
You can either be “stupid” or “ignorant”. Stupid is someone who refuses to acknowledge the facts presented. Ignorant means you just don’t know. Which one is it?
Have you ever told your bishop that you “decline” a calling because you “WANT” to? How would you answer your temple recommend questions after having done so? What impact does certain “callings” have on the family unit?
As far as financial stakes are concerned, Seagull Books, Beehive Bookstores, etc. come to mind. There’s a lot financial stakes going on there.
“All volunteer clergy” is nothing to brag about. If they don’t know scripture, they can and will lead you astray.
Tell me Saundra, when was the last time you heard something in a Sunday “talk” given by a member whose turn it was to give a “talk”, that was patently false and had a member of the bishopric or another member correct it?
I have personally never seen any correction given to the congregation for false or misleading information presented. Have you?