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What's Bringing So Many Catholics Home? (Part 1) [Catholic Caucus]
Zenit.org ^ | May 4, 2010 | Andrea Kirk Assaf

Posted on 05/11/2010 5:58:41 PM PDT by Salvation

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To: Salvation

Wow! Goosebumps....


21 posted on 05/12/2010 7:27:40 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: Salvation

And that takes a lot of courage and grace from the Holy Spirit to be able to do that!

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Especially in this time of full out assaults on the pope and the Church.


22 posted on 05/12/2010 7:33:54 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: Salvation
"The first desire was to get close to the sacraments, with frequent confession, frequent Eucharist, start reading the
Bible. I started going to daily Mass, and I begged God to serve"
--from the post. [emphasis; mine]

23 posted on 05/12/2010 8:02:32 AM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: Salvation
IMO, the biggest reason for "coming home" is not Catholicism per se, but rather the stability that an institutional, liturgical church offers.

I was talking to a friend the other day. She comes from a "Bible church" background, and she's very dissatisfied with the atmosphere of her large, non-denominational church. Its approach seems rather ad hoc to her, and there's an "entertainment" aspect to the services that has ceased to be attractive to her.

She finds herself drawn to my (Episcopal) parish because of our liturgy and tradition, but moreso because of our attention to the seasons of the church year -- they provide a stability and focus that is quite independent of whatever issues are grabbing the attention of the pastoral team.

The attraction of the Catholic Church is no doubt similar -- and I believe there's also a sort of "ethnicity" to Catholicism that exerts a powerful pull.

24 posted on 05/12/2010 8:15:27 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: mlizzy

The holiness in the mass is what drew me to the Church, long before I became Catholic.


25 posted on 05/12/2010 8:30:14 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Judith Anne
The typical Novus Ordo parish is too feelings oriented (oriented towards women, effeminate), they can advertise all they want, but what is there today for men to see and hear, will not hold them. Women all over the sanctuary, insipid sermons written for children, and people hugging and kissing strangers during kiss of peace.

Our Blessed Mother showed a vision of Hell to the three children of Fatima, it was so intense, that they said they would have died had they not been sustained by God. If little children were showed Hell by Our Blessed Mother, then adults of good can take the truth. Teach hard truths,challenge them, and they (men) will come, and LIVE the Faith.

Fear of God is what is missing in Catholics today. They might go to mass, but they use contraceptives, and watch Desperate Housewives. That's not living the Faith. I go to mass to save my soul from eternal perdition. I go to mass to love, honor and serve God.

26 posted on 05/12/2010 11:25:45 AM PDT by Leoni
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To: NYer

The journey of Christian ‘babelism’ is to respond to Jesus ‘that they all be one’. Kicking against the goad hurts.


27 posted on 05/12/2010 11:33:20 AM PDT by ex-snook ("You will know they are Christians by their love.")
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To: mlizzy
An Inspiring scene. Now that's Catholic!

Can you please tell me what I need to do to post a picture? I know how to copy and paste an url, but not how to make it show on FR. Is there an < >?

28 posted on 05/12/2010 11:41:57 AM PDT by Leoni
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To: Leoni

If little children were showed Hell by Our Blessed Mother, then adults of good will can take the truth.


29 posted on 05/12/2010 11:44:00 AM PDT by Leoni
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To: Leoni

Beautifully said, Leoni. Thank you.


30 posted on 05/12/2010 11:53:12 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Salvation
Advertising to Get Parishioners,

Sounds like someone imbibed the lyrics from the "play" (barf!) Jesus Christ Superstar:

"If you'd come today you would've reached a whole nation. Israel in 4 B.C. had no mass communication".

31 posted on 05/12/2010 12:16:08 PM PDT by Leoni
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Leoni, are you familiar with Photobucket? I use them and upload my photographs there. You can change the size of them, etc. at that site if you wish, but when you’re happy with the size of your picture, you just grab the HTML code (it’s the third listed in a box under the photo), and paste that into Free Republic ... some folks use tinypic.com as well ...


32 posted on 05/12/2010 1:45:08 PM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: annalex
Wow. Great painting.

I went looking for its artist. The Web Gallery of Art attributes it to an unknown French artist, but it looked Flemish to me - another source attributes it to 'Andrieu d'Ippre, peintre de Paris' who left Amiens for Paris in 1444, and died in Mons in 1450. So arguably Netherlands rather than French.

I would love to know who the beheaded bishop is - St. Denis maybe? Which would militate for French. But the saint with the amazing fur trimmed hat, crystal ball, sword, and little terrier dog is REALLY who I'd like to identify.

33 posted on 05/12/2010 4:13:33 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)T)
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To: Judith Anne

:)


34 posted on 05/12/2010 4:41:36 PM PDT by annalex
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To: AnAmericanMother
Yes, all I know is from Web Gallery of Art:

This painting - a cross between a polyptych and an altarpiece - was executed for the Grande Chambre of the Parlement of Paris by a painter native of Flanders or the north of France. The frame, forming five lunettes, recalls the compartments of a polyptych. However, the surface of the painting is occupied by a single, united landscape showing the Paris of the time.

The unknown painter is referred to as the Master of Dreux Budé.

WGA

The do mention Flanders, and I would guess that the beheaded bishop is St. Denis as well.

35 posted on 05/12/2010 4:47:13 PM PDT by annalex
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But the saint with the amazing fur trimmed hat, crystal ball, sword, and little terrier dog is REALLY who I'd like to identify.

He may not be a saint at all, but the patron of the artist. Wealthy folks sometimes had painters put them into the scenes; they were paying for it, after all!

36 posted on 05/12/2010 5:43:15 PM PDT by SuziQ
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The king on the far left with the fleurs-de-lis must be Charles VII.

I'm thinking the man on the far right is a king as well, there's a crown on his cap. He's also wearing armor, and there's a letter "C" on the center. Odds are it's Charlemagne. He was one of the Nine Worthies and often portrayed in a formal manner as a model of kingship.

There's a resemblance (at least in terms of attributes - note the cap and the orb) to another 15th century portrait of Charlemagne:

As well as a portrait by Durer:

And it makes sense that the kings would be symmetrical on either side. I'm sure Charles VII wished he was as important as Charlemagne.

37 posted on 05/12/2010 5:48:36 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)T)
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To: SuziQ
Suzi, I've revised my opinion on further examination. I think it's Charlemagne, which would make sense since he is opposite Charles VII on the other side.

He had dogs - traditionally Briards. That dog is small for a Briard (they're about the size of a small Lab), but at least it's hairy.

38 posted on 05/12/2010 5:51:28 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)T)
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To: Not gonna take it anymore

I saw it last night and will post it tomorrow. I helpepd to cook food for a potato bar for 50 people today at church. I’m beat tonight.


39 posted on 05/12/2010 9:57:23 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Bigg Red

I only have dial up so it takes a long time to listen/watch one of them. Thanks for the feedback. Which one did you like the best?


40 posted on 05/12/2010 9:58:41 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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