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1 posted on 05/08/2010 5:58:47 PM PDT by Irisshlass
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2 posted on 05/08/2010 5:59:51 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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Is There a Missing Text of the Third Secret?...

I was surprised to read, just this week, that some Catholics believe that the Vatican didn't reveal the "real" third secret. Seriously, is there a group that actually thinks this?

The Third Secret of Fatima, at vatican.va

3 posted on 05/08/2010 6:06:04 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Pretentiousness is so beneath me.)
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To: Irisshlass; SunkenCiv

If you go to the video you find there are 35 reasons why there is a missing text of the 3rd secret.

Call me crazy but I didn’t know there was even a possibility of a missing secret.


4 posted on 05/08/2010 6:18:06 PM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: Irisshlass; narses
Thanks for posting this! (And thanks, Narses, for the ping!)

There has been a great many cover-ups and whitewashings by the Vatican of the true warnings of Our Lady to the shepherd children!

I am not a graphics expert, but I have seen reasons for believing that the Vatican's "Third Secret" was not written in Sister Lucia's handwriting.

I should qualify that as the Sister Lucia who was one of the three shepherd visionaries -- since it may be that the Vatican also created a doppleganger of Sister Lucia to pose for photos with Pope John Paul II and to "verify" the Vatican's "Third Secret."

9 posted on 05/08/2010 6:52:30 PM PDT by Dajjal (Justice Robert Jackson was wrong -- the Constitution IS a suicide pact.)
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To: Irisshlass
Related threads:
On the Third Secret, "Fourth Secret(s)", and other visions of Fatima:
Is There Missing Text Of The Third Secret?
'The Fourth Secret of Fatima': Is Pope Benedict's life in danger?
Marian Visionary Warns 2010 Start of Fatima Chastisement (Catholic Caucus ONLY)
Coast-2-Coast AM 10.09.08 Nicholas Gruner -Fatima Secrets-
Fatima: Case Closed
Sister Lucia's Last Moments
Bertone shows original Third Fatima Secret letter on TV
Fatima: The secret's out, despite claims to the contrary
“The Fourth Secret of Fatima”
Two Popes, Two Books -- and Two Major Insights into Famed Third Fatima Secret
The Third Secret of Fatima
Papal Assailant Calls on Vatican to Reveal All Parts of Fatima Secret
Questions ... Regarding The Third Secret of Fatima
Telling Secrets on the Vatican (re: "Third Secret" of Fatima)
Alleged Third Secret Handwriting ... (Fatima, Sister Lucia)
"No More Secrets," Visionary Said in 2001 (Sr. Lucia Confirmed Russia Consecrated to Mary)

10 posted on 05/08/2010 6:53:40 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Pretentiousness is so beneath me.)
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To: Irisshlass

It’s been my belief, that some of the third secret was revealed only on the papal level, but perhaps I’m wrong. It’s been a long time since I re-read materials and discussed Fatima in depth.


16 posted on 05/08/2010 7:53:00 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Irisshlass
Is There Missing Text Of The Third Secret?
Top Ten Scientific Explantions of Miracle of Sun at Fatima (Catholic Caucus)
Fatima and the Theology of the Body: Part II
Fatima and Akita
Fatima and the Theology of the Body: Part I
The Story of Fatima -- Part 2
The Story of Faitma -- Part 1
Our Lady of Fatima, May 13
Litany of Our Lady of Fatima
Last Fatima child buried in final resting place (Sr. Maria's remains transferred to Fatima)
Sister Lucia, last remaining witness of Fatima apparitions, dies at 97

SISTER LUCIA RIP
LAST OF CHILDREN WHO CLAIMED TO SEE VIRGIN MARY DIES AT 97
Last child who claimed to see "Virgin Mary" dies
Virgin Mary Child Dies (Lucia of Fatima)
Mourning for Fatima seer (Portugal declares day of mourning)
Third Secret of Fatima is not fully revealed.
Sister Lucia, last remaining witness of Fatima apparitions, dies at 97
Sr. Lucia, Fatima, and Islam
Mystery Fatima: Death of Lucia Accents Famed Secrets & Area's Hidden History
"No More Secrets," Visionary Said in 2001 (Sr. Lucia Confirmed Russia Consecrated to Mary)

Papal praise at Sister Lucia's funeral
Our Lady of Fatima, ‘counterrevolutionary’ and ‘ecumenical’
Fatima Statue Due at Vatican to Mark a Fateful Day 25 Years After Attempt on John Paul II's Life
Sister Lucia's Unpublished Writings Released - Visionary Reflects on Marian Apparitions
Sister Lucia's Last Moments
Fatima: Case Closed
Rosary Rallies Planned for Fatima Anniversary [Catholic Caucus]
Giant new church at Fatima shrine
Sister Lucia's Beatification Process to Begin ( Pope Waves 5-Year Waiting Period)
The faithful remember miracle of Fatima, Thousands gather in Washington Twp. on 90th anniversary
Pius XII Saw "Miracle of the Sun" [Catholic Caucus]

17 posted on 05/08/2010 7:57:47 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Irisshlass

This has been debunked by Sr. Lucia herself. Nothing to see.....move on.


19 posted on 05/08/2010 8:13:32 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Irisshlass

Ping for later.


23 posted on 05/08/2010 8:52:19 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark.")
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To: Irisshlass

>>> Is There a Missing Text of the Third Secret?.

Yes there is. I decoded it as “DRINK MORE OVALTINE”.


26 posted on 05/09/2010 12:09:23 AM PDT by tlb
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To: Irisshlass

Sister Lucia had already given an indication for interpreting the third part of the “secret” in a letter to the Holy Father, dated 12 May 1982:

“The third part of the secret refers to Our Lady’s words: ‘If not [Russia] will spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the Church. The good will be martyred; the Holy Father will have much to suffer; various nations will be annihilated’ (13-VII-1917).

The third part of the secret is a symbolic revelation, referring to this part of the Message, conditioned by whether we accept or not what the Message itself asks of us: ‘If my requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace; if not, she will spread her errors throughout the world, etc.’.

Since we did not heed this appeal of the Message, we see that it has been fulfilled, Russia has invaded the world with her errors. And if we have not yet seen the complete fulfilment of the final part of this prophecy, we are going towards it little by little with great strides. If we do not reject the path of sin, hatred, revenge, injustice, violations of the rights of the human person, immorality and violence, etc.

And let us not say that it is God who is punishing us in this way; on the contrary it is people themselves who are preparing their own punishment. In his kindness God warns us and calls us to the right path, while respecting the freedom he has given us; hence people are responsible”.

http://www.ewtn.com/fatima/apparitions/Third_Secret/Fatima.htm


29 posted on 05/09/2010 5:13:57 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Irisshlass

Seems pretty clear-cut to me. Muslim fanatics will one day attack the Vatican and there’ll be an awful bloody battle.
In 1917 this must have been hard to take literally, but these days it doesn’t feel “symbolic” at all.


31 posted on 05/09/2010 5:26:22 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (STOP the Tyrananny State.)
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To: Irisshlass

Look at the Episcopal Church, if you “lived through” what has happened to it ... this is not so far fetched. FROM MY point of view, it destroyed itself and tried to take me down too. I left.


32 posted on 05/09/2010 5:55:43 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (http://www.thepatriotsflag.com - The Patriot's Flag)
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To: Robe

later


34 posted on 05/09/2010 6:54:16 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: Irisshlass

Have you even read what she wrote regarding the messages?


49 posted on 05/10/2010 4:08:50 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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