Posted on 04/27/2010 8:30:47 AM PDT by Pyro7480
Catholic ping!
The words “Jesuit and Berkley” pretty much told me what this priest had to say. Yawn.
A Jesuit. Is he gay?
He went to a Jesuit institution, but it looks like he’s a diocesan priest.
Too bad his very presence has to defile Snoqualmie and Carnation, Washington. Those are otherwise nice places. I have learned to not enter any Catholic Church in Western Washington State without doing extensive research beforehand. This dude is a good example of why, as is the “Rainbow” priest in Black Diamond.
Going back as far as Archbishop Hunthausen, Seattle has been infected with the "spirit of Vatican II" virus and it continues to run a high fever to this day.
The MA from Notre Dame did it for me.
It is the wailing and gnashing of teeth by the spirit of VII and its minions as they realize they are losing.
If this priest did have any sincere dispute with the rite at hand, wouldn't standard procedure be for him to voice his misgivings to his superiors? Wouldn't any criticism (or more like condemnation here) first have to be "vetted" and approved by his superiors before being published?
To me, this is tantamount to an active officer in the U.S. military writing a Letter to the Editor severely criticizing the actions of the Chief of Staff.
The fact that his criticisms are mostly of an aesthetic nature actually makes it worse, in my eyes. If a priest felt that some terrible outrage were being perpetrated in the name of the Church, by leading Church officials, I could understand his "going rogue." But to subject the Church and his superiors to such embarassment by talking out of turn over mere "undecorous" aspects of the old rite??!
Regards,
He’s GAY and maybe an ATHEIST!! What a FRAUD!!
Fr, Michael Ryan allows a WOMAN to give the HOMILY, which is totally against Canon Law......
Your military analogy is quite apt. Unfortunately, too many bishops don’t take disciplinary action against their wayward priests. Bishop Slattery isn’t this priest’s bishop, but the fact that he wrote this tells us that he doesn’t fear his own bishop, either because his bishop agrees with him, or because his bishop doesn’t exercise his authority to correct or even remove such dissidents.
The American Catholic church os loaded with these guys (so called catholic priests). I had belonged to a parish on the southwest side of Chicago, St Sympharosa,, who’s new pastor replaced a very traditional priest.
Well the first thing this clown did when installed as pastor was declare in the church bulletin that the use of the atomic bomb during WWII was genocide, set specific hours for confession , and go out and play golf.
Nice work, and right on the mark. I seem to recall that in the pre-V II days, going to Mass was called “assisting.” He has obviously equated “old” with “useless.”
Silly, silly old man.
That’s about all I can say nicely. So I’ll quit. But just because you don’t understand the beauty of liturgy and symbolism, doesn’t mean I don’t. Don’t foist your intellectual weaknesses on me!
Listing of Extraordinary Form Locations.I don’t know why people get so upset about the liturgy. Was Jesus there? Was the Holy Spirit there? If it’s good enough for them, who am I to worry about it?
I’m sorry that a priest feels the need to sneer at people who pray in the traditional way. Shame on him.
By the way, I went to a melkite rite service on Sunday. Normally, I go to the standard Mass at my local parish. Seeing the enthusiastic orthodox and traditional Latin parishioners here on FR inspired me to see what the fuss was about, so I went to this ancient form of the mass.
I am underwhelmed by the wonderfulness of it all. Not bowled over by the dignity and mystery or anything. Nevertheless, I felt right at home. It was really pretty normal, despite the languages coming and going (there were arabic, greek and english parts). I enjoyed listening to the cantor, joining in the prayers and singing, taking in the icons and candles (and the donuts with the kind old people afterwards). We said a lot more “Lord have mercy’s” than I am used to and there was a lot of incense. But it was still so clearly the Mass, in basically the same order. Two or more were gathered, so to speak, and God was there. The wording of the creed was a little different and there was no physical sign of peace. Not a big deal. Of course, I have been to mass in different languages and different countries, so I’m pretty adaptable.
I came away more impressed with the universality of the Church and the core aspects of the liturgy than with any big need to embrace one rite and reject another.
I trust the Pope to do any adjustments to the liturgy he wants to do, and I’m going to roll with them. I hope the American bishops cooperate with him.
or at least within Fr. Jan's powers of condescension.
Is “Oregon Catholic Press” in this area?
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