Posted on 04/06/2010 7:41:39 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz
President Obama bared his soul before a cross section of Christian leaders at a White House Easter breakfast on Tuesday (April 6), where he spoke publicly of his faith in redemption through Jesus in his most personal terms since becoming president.
"We are awed by the grace he showed even to those who would have killed him," Obama said, pausing occasionally to glance at written notes. "We are thankful for the sacrifice he gave for the sins of humanity. And we glory in the promise of redemption in the resurrection."
Obama said the Easter breakfast, along with a recent Passover Seder and a Ramadan dinner last fall, was part of his pledge to make the White House "a place where all people would feel welcome." Presidential aides also said it gave Obama the opportunity to thank Christian leaders for their community service.
"For those who are wondering or have doubts about whether he is authentically Christian, I think today's message puts all doubts to rest," said the Rev. Kirbyjon Caldwell, another Houston megachurch pastor who attended Tuesday's breakfast.
Obama's father was a Kenyan Muslim-turned-atheist, his mother an agnostic, and his Indonesian stepfather an unorthodox Muslim. Caldwell, who is close to Obama and his predecessor, President George W. Bush, said he is galled by the number of Americans -- one in 10 according to a 2009 poll -- who refuse to believe Obama is Christian.
Caldwell was also one of about 20 black clergy -- from denominational heads to pastors who knew Obama when he was a community organizer in Chicago -- who gathered with the president privately before the breakfast.
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Matthew 22:34-40
34Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together. 35One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question:
36"Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?"
37Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' 38This is the first and greatest commandment. 39And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' 40All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."
Did YHvH give the LAW to ANYONE but His Chosen People?
I was there when you posted this ;^)
The one in JERUSALEM!
Did YHvH give the LAW to ANYONE but His Chosen People?
Do you wish to be grafted
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
into the rich root of the
olive tree as Paul tells in Romans 11 ?
Matthew 22:34-40
NO of cause not. Yah'shua was citing His Law to all people. Leviticus 19:18 'You shall not take vengeance,Was that something new that Yah'shua was giving as Law ?
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
Deuteronomy 6:5 "You shall love YHvH your God
with all your heart and with all your soul
and with all your might.
nor bear any grudge against the sons of your people,
but you shall love your neighbor as yourself; I am YHvH.
YES
Paul and his companions broke bread I don't think Paul went to a RCC and
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
watch a "priest" perform magic.
and enjoyed a meal after the Shabbat;
it is called an Oneg.
Is Yah'shua YHvH?
Yah'shua said Do you believe in three gods as some cults do ? Is there only ONE YHvH ?
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
I and the Father are ONE.
If you have seen me, you have seen the Father.
I am a blood washed sinner. I call on the blood of the Lamb of G-d to cover my sins But I do truly love Him and I therefore keep His commandments John 14:23 Jesus answered and said to him, I do not live under the Law !
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
as do all of the followers of the Messiah. John 14:15 "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.
"If anyone loves Me,
he will keep My word; and My Father will love him,
and We will come to him and make Our abode with him.
Was that a YES or a NO?
Not according to Scripture:
Matthew 15:21-28
21Leaving that place, Jesus withdrew to the region of Tyre and Sidon. 22A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, "Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is suffering terribly from demon-possession."
23Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, "Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us."
24He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel."
25The woman came and knelt before him. "Lord, help me!" she said.
26He replied, "It is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs."
27"Yes, Lord," she said, "but even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters' table."
28Then Jesus answered, "Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted." And her daughter was healed from that very hour.
“Do you believe in three gods as some cults do ?”
Have you ever heard of the Trinity? A fundamental doctrine all orthodox Christians believe in. Or are “traditional and orthodox Christians “Cult members”?
What you are claiming is that the Epistles are not Scripture and therefore can be ignored?
?
I am not claiming any lower status for the epistles. But as Peter stated, Paul is difficult to understand for some. Many twist and torture Paul's epistles until It seems you are trying to read my mind.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
That is not permitted on the religion forum.
they will yield some other gospel.
Paul warned of this.
Have you ever heard of the Trinity? A fundamental doctrine all orthodox Christians believe in. Or are “traditional and orthodox Christians “Cult members”?
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Sigh. Typical. The trinity is one God in three aspects co equal and co eternal. Not 3 Gods. Similar to the sun in the sky. There is only one sun, but we can see light and feel warmth as well.
It is not 3 Gods. However, the Mormon doctrine of the ‘godhead’ along with their view of eternal regression of gods (God had a god who had a god etc) is polytheism and I think is the cult U was referring to.
You aren't ON the Religion Forum.
Paul is very easy to understand. ....as long as one isn't twisting Scripture. We live under grace and not the law. I will not demean Jesus' gift by living under the law.
Have you ever heard of the Trinity? A fundamental doctrine all orthodox Christians believe in. Or are “traditional and orthodox Christians “Cult members”?
There are others who accept only the "Holy Ghost" as their god. I believe Yah'shua when he said there is only ONE YHvH. There are those who reject the Father and believe that "jesus" is their new god and reject 7/8th of the Word of G-d which is Yah'shua.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
Also "If you have seen me, you have seen the Father".
or "I and the Father are ONE".
I also believe that YHvH comes to us as the breath of Elohim
in order to illuminate the Holy WORD for our understanding.
You use a lot of words and circular logic to say NOTHING. You answer NOTHING. You only accuse others of lacking understanding, knowledge and faith. You sound like the other cultists that I’ve spoken with. They have no answers either.
That is not permitted on the religion forum.
You aren't ON the Religion Forum.
Paul is very easy to understand. ....as long as one isn't twisting Scripture. We live under grace and not the law. I will not demean Jesus' gift by living under the law.
We are on the religion forum. Romans 6:2 May it never be!Perhaps you are confused.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
Romans 6:1 What shall we say then?
Are we to continue in sin
so that grace may increase?
How shall we who died to sin still live in it?
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