To: circlecity
I beg to differ. Every time the greek word for linen cloth (othinia) is used in John 20 it is an accusitive plural and verse 7 makes it very clear the head cloth was found separate from the body wrappings. The Jewish burial customs are known... and described in Jewish writings of the period. They are prescriptive as was much of Jewish customs. Multiple pieces of cloth were used... but not like mummy wrappings. A shroud was used, if it could be afforded by the family. If not, the face was at least covered. However, bindings to keep the body in position were required and another binding to keep the mouth closed was required. This binding would be placed around the head, under the chin, to keep the mouth from dropping open. That makes for at least four cloths... and a modesty cloth over the genitals... making five. Plural. Wealthy families used large sindons... sheets or shrouds. Two years ago a collapsed tomb was found with an intact, uncollected skeleton was found with a full length shroud, no face cloth, but with a jaw binding, and wrist and ankle bindings... exactly what was prescribed in the Jewish writings. But that meets the plural description the Gospel has... and the Shroud meets it as well as being ONE of the several pieces of the grave clothes.
63 posted on
04/03/2010 11:20:20 PM PDT by
Swordmaker
(Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
To: Swordmaker
It's no point to argue with these debunkers, most debunkers debunk other things in relation to the bible and Christianity.
How about the new archaeological evidence recently that proves the bible right ? yes, there was a thread here on FR a few weeks ago, guess what ? there were debunkers trying to make the archaeological claims as false.
No matter how much scientific evidence you have, or physical evidence, there are always going to be those who want to prove the bible wrong.
There are those who have the audacity to claim that King David was just a myth, just like there are those who want to say that the shroud is a myth and a fraud.
103 posted on
04/05/2010 4:55:20 PM PDT by
American Constitutionalist
(There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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