Posted on 03/31/2010 9:00:52 AM PDT by Colofornian
Jews have one. Catholics have one. Do Mormons need an independent anti-defamation group...
-- I suppose Latter-day Saints shouldn't be too surprised the latest put-down from Chuck Colson, leader of the Prison Fellowship. Ironically, it was as he and leaders of Christian groups announced a new "civility covenant."
When a reporter asked if the covenant should include Glenn Beck, CNN reported Colson saying that the document:
"Wouldn't apply to Glenn Beck because we're talking about the conversation in the family of believers ... Glenn Beck is a Mormon." CNN continues: "Many Christians don't consider Mormons -- members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints -- to be Christians, though Mormons consider themselves Christian."
Colson's statements follow a long line of less-than-civil evangelical exclusionary actions including keeping Mormons out of National Day of Prayer services to a Christian student press group excluding BYU journalism students from its competition.
SNIP
Here's another example from friends at the ADL during the campaign entitled "Judge Romney by his platform, not his Mormonism":
"But two recent polls found that at least one quarter of Americans said they would not vote for a Mormon for president. These findings are troubling and disappointing, but so is the fact that some religious conservatives have compared the Mormon religion to a 'cult' and its doctrines to paganism. The Web site of Pat Robertson's Christian Broadcasting Network, for example, says the religious beliefs of Mormons 'are simply wrong,' and 'when it comes to spiritual matters, the Mormons are far from the truth.' While doctrinal differences and debates among Christian groups are their own theological business, such assertions are surely painful and disturbing."
(Excerpt) Read more at mormontimes.com ...
I am sorry to hear about the issue in your family. That is always tough.
I was the only LDS member in my family, so I know how divisive these things can be.
Feel free to freepmail me if you have any questions.
White skinned people need an ADL.
As a Catholic, I belong the “The Great and Abominable Church” according to Mormon documents, and Protestants don’t get off either; they’re the “lewd daughters” of us `Romanists’.
BTW, go to exmormon.org just for laughs.
And who compared Mormons to Muslims? More to that than meets the eye, JMHO.
Isn’t every mormonite already a member of the universal victims group?
reaganaut gave me that sight(yes, I know it’s site) LOL
Like I have said to LDS’rs. What’s the problem if your faith in your faith is strong, then this is no big deal. Right?
But, being a member of the abominable Church you know that. Though you do get off lucky compared to Presbyterians.
Gamemiel the Pharasee adresses the Jewish High council to decide the fate of Peter and the apostles, arrested for preaching the gospel:
38 “So my advice is, leave these men alone. Let them go. If they are planning and doing these things merely on their own, it will soon be overthrown.
39 But if it is from God, you will not be able to overthrow them. You may even find yourselves fighting against God!”
40 The others accepted his advice. They called in the apostles and had them flogged. Then they ordered them never again to speak in the name of Jesus, and they let them go.
41 The apostles left the high council rejoicing that God had counted them worthy to suffer disgrace for the name of Jesus.
42 And every day, in the Temple and from house to house, they continued to teach and preach this message: “Jesus is the Messiah.”
Acts 5
good point
Why bring the vile scumbag huckster into this?
Define "defamed" - doctrine matters and it is ludricris to believe that mormons and the rest of Christianity can all be called "Christians" when -
Mormonism is polytheistic - Christianity is monotheistic
Mormon Jesus is a created being ontologically equal to satan as well as you and I - Christianity Jesus is the Second Person of the Trinity, eternal God, not created
And these are just two of the key doctrinal differences. It is NOT defamation to draw the line in the sand.
Oh looky another half-baked anti-Mormon rant thread!
I invite you all to investigate the LDS faith more fully by not relying purely on well-practiced attack dogs that frequent these forums.
Do a little research on your own. You’ll find much of what you hear from anti-Mormons is based on half-truths and/or misrepresentations. Occasionally outright falsehoods. You want the truth right?
Seriously, thread after thread is chocked full of false and misleading statements. Some by those who profess to be ex-members. Well no wonder they left if they are so confused.
Don’t rely on people with an agenda. Find out for yourself.
It’s true. Mormons not only believe THEY are Christians, they believe Christians ARE NOT Christians.
They think Jesus and his disciples taught exactly what they believe.
It’s the Cristians who lost and mistranslated the bible to make it read what it does now.
But luckily Joseph Smith came to the rescue and “restored” the gospel to what it “should” be.
It’s ridiculous and blasphemy.
Name one.
And the expression is "chock full"
Yet you are unable in all these canned posts to cite a single specific post to prove your point.
You just posted the same tripe on another thread and neither has ANY evidence of your claims.
I can PROVE that these statements ARE NOT lies, half-truths or misrepresntations using LDS’ OWN words and scriptures. Can you do the same? More baseless accusations from the LDS.
PROVE I AM LYING, go ahead, I DARE you.
The LDS are the ones with the agenda, they lie both to potential converts and THEIR OWN MEMBERSHIP.
But I do agree, research Mormonism, research both sides and DO NOT believe that they are Christian just because they are nice to you. The LDS are the ones with an agenda.
I am so tired of the LDS stealing my Lord and Savior and claiming to be Christians. Put up or shut up!
Seriously, thread after thread is chocked full of false and misleading statements. Some by those who profess to be ex-members. Well no wonder they left if they are so confused.
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Prove it, you made an assumption, now prove it.
I left because I found out my own (LDS) church was LYING to me and whitewashing their history.
The fog of confusion was lifted when GOD pulled me out of the LDS church and opened my eyes.
I am not aware of any religion, anywhere, that forbids something like that, save Mormons.
In the premortal existence, Heavenly Father prepared a plan to enable us to become like Him and receive a fulness of joy. The scriptures refer to this plan as "the plan of salvation" (Alma 24:14; Moses 6:62), "the great plan of happiness" (Alma 42:8), "the plan of redemption" (Jacob 6:8; Alma 12:30), and "the plan of mercy" (Alma 42:15). The plan of salvation is the fulness of the gospel.
It includes the Creation, the Fall, the Atonement of Jesus Christ, and all the laws, ordinances, and doctrines of the gospel. Moral agency, the ability to choose and act for ourselves, is also essential in Heavenly Father's plan. Because of this plan, we can be perfected through the Atonement, receive a fulness of joy, and live forever in the presence of God. Our family relationships can last throughout the eternities.
Note: No mention of the Crucifixion.
Let us deal with the facts. Mormonism is a cult if you determine a cult by traditional Christian beliefs, such as you find the the ancient creeds. That is a fact. There is an objective criteria for determining what is Christian and what is not. I used to believe that Mormons and I had much in common politically, but Harry Reid destroyed that view.
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