Posted on 03/25/2010 8:19:34 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
1st Question: Why does the pope continue to assert that what he calls "holy" celibacy is a "precious gift", thus ignoring the biblical teaching that explicitly permits and even encourages marriage for all office holders in the Church?...The rule of celibacy is not a truth of faith, but a church law going back to the 11th Century...
4th Question: Is it not time for Pope Benedict XVI himself to acknowledge his share of responsibility, instead of whining about a campaign against his person?
In his eight years as a professor of theology in Regensburg, in close contact with his brother Georg, the capellmeister of the Regensburger Domspatzen, Ratzinger can hardly have been ignorant about what went on in the choir and its boarding--school. This was much more than an occasional slap in the face, there are charges of serious physical violence and even sexual abuse.
In his five years as Archbishop of Munich, repeated cases of sexual abuse at least by one priest transferred to his Archdiocese have come to light. His loyal Vicar General, my classmate Gerhard Gruber, has taken full responsibility for the handling of this case, but that is hardly an excuse for the Archbishop, who is ultimately responsible for the administration of his diocese.
In his 24 years as Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, from around the world, all cases of grave sexual offences by clerics had to be reported, under strictest secrecy ("secretum pontificum"), to his curial office, which was exclusively responsible for dealing with them. Ratzinger himself, in a letter on "grave sexual crimes" addressed to all the bishops under the date of 18 May, 2001, warned the bishops, under threat of ecclesiastical punishment, to observe "papal secrecy" in such cases...
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You do know that Kung was disciplined by CDF and that he is a notorius dissenter, don’t you? So why should I believe a single word he has to say on this issue?
This source is also pro-abortion - from their “woman’s” section:
QUEZON CITY, Philippines — The church’s catechism opposing the Reproductive Health Bill, which is now before Congress, has silenced election candidates on women’s rights, a leading advocate of the proposed law says.
Politicians seem to have “all meekly acquiesced to the dictates” of the Episcopal Commission on Family and Life, which issued the “Catechism on Family and Life” for the 2010 elections, former Health Secretary Alberto Romualdez said. National, provincial and local elections will be held nationwide May 10.
Oh and PS. For pity’s sake nothing, nothing in canon law requiring confidentiality in proceedings forbade any reporting of alleged crimes to civil authorities.
And by the way criminal investigations are also handled confidentially.
In canon law as well as civil law there is the presumption of innocence. So the accused does have the right to be treated as such. Which means not exposing a person who my not be guilty to public condemnation.
An investigation is not a trial. It is not a tribunal. It is not a foregone conclusion. It is just that, an investigation.
A trial and investigation are conducted under different rules. I wish people would learn the difference.
Ever heard of a “secret” grand jury investigation?
The National Catholic Reporter? Not Catholic. It is however, a left-wing front group used to divide Catholics.
FYI, the National Catholic Reporter is an anti-Catholic dissent rag. They are also huge homo enablers. Their credibility on this issue is less than ZERO.
“Is it not time for Pope Benedict XVI himself to acknowledge his share of responsibility, instead of whining about a campaign against his person?”
I’m no Catholic,, but it couldn’t be *any more obvious* that the leftards started hunting him the very minute he was picked for pope. They started carefully sifting through his life, for anything bad that happened somewhere he lived. They did it because they hate what he stands for,,, so it appears the pop was correct in his assessment.
Liberal Catholics HATE the discipline of celibacy. I’m not sure you could find a Catholic pundit who is pro-life, anti-birth control, anti-homosexualist agenda, anti-priestesses, and against “gay marriage” who is also against celibacy. You sure can find Catholic pundits who are for all those liberal things and they invariably hate celibacy.
Freegards
Kung loves to criticize the papacy. What do you know about him? LOL!
Stopped reading right there. The tired liberal and totally debunked rhetoric regarding "celibacy" as a bad thing is exposed (pun intended) again. If the priests in question had remained true to the "precious gift" of holy celibacy there would not have been a scandal. The homosexuals "OF this world" allowed into the priesthood are at fault, not holy celibacy.
Question: can the Bishop where National catholic Reporter is headquartered force them to cease and desist misusing "Catholic" in their name?
Sad.
| Hans K¸ng | Former theologian condemned by the Vatican. |
CP, Do you wish to associate yourself with Dr. Kung and his opinions? Do you have any commentary on it? Or is this just another left-wing rip and run attack on the Pontiff?
Hi Faraday,
I can tell you one thing, I do not want to be associated with the pope.
I dislike Kung, but he is right regarding the origins of the celibacy rule. It was a comparatively late development and has been unevenly enforced. Within the Catholic communion for instance, for the last few hundred years Maronites have been permitted married clergy with a gentlements agreement they cannot progress higher in the church once married.
I don’t have an issue with married clergy theologically, but I suspect we’d see some awful instances of priests unable to keep distance between them and their flocks or finding it even harder to do so.
As to whether it would magically fix the pedophile scandal - I doubt it. The anglicans have had married clergy yet there’s been plenty of dubious instances within their ranks and within other bodies. As ever, most of this just comes from sick twisted perverts driven by lust or power, taking shelter within a respected institution and using it as cover.
Do I want to be associated with Hans Kung?
I can tell you what I do not want to be associated with. I do not want to be associated with the sexual violence of young children and the systematic coverup of paedophiles and their crimes.
I do not want to be associated with the perversion of the name of Jesus Christ by those who claim to represent Him.
It is a sad day when the godless have more credibility to stand on than those who have publicly taken the burden upon themselves to be representatives of the living GOD.
The Catholic Church is not immune from attacks by the Enemy.
Then, the works of the Enemy should be exposed and fought, not covered up or defended.
Excellent, excellent post.
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