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To: marshmallow

Going where angels fear to tread. I was raised as a Catholic, now a Protestant.

I disagree with your view that it is modernism that is the core problem, although I am a traditionalist and see this as a great problem in almost all areas of social life.

I believe the problem is that well meaning Catholics in the heirarchy believe that the Catholic Church is all important, on a level with God, so that it must be protected at all costs. So the evil men do the evil and then the “good” Catholics sweep it under the rug because they want to protect the all important Catholic Church. So children are abused, year after year, and “good” men protect their abusers to protect the Church.

God and God’s laws first. Ignoring this has been where Catholics have gone seriously off the reservation with their “church over all other things”type of Christianity.

Sorry brothers and sisters but that is how I see it.


7 posted on 03/23/2010 7:01:51 AM PDT by Woebama (Never, never, never quit)
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To: Woebama
Sorry brothers and sisters but that is how I see it.

Well I see it as a bureaucracy that handled sex abuse of minors, several decades ago, in a manner not at all unlike that of society at large. I also see a bureaucracy used to attacks from those who wish it ill, whose judgment may have been clouded to the extent that legitimate cases were handled poorly.

Saying the Catholic Church was the ONLY organization to be slow to understand the full ramifications of sex abuse of minors in its ranks is pure revisionist history.

8 posted on 03/23/2010 7:10:14 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (One good thing about music, when it hits you feel no pain.)
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To: Woebama
Thanks for your input.

We disagree but that's OK.

Pax Christi.

12 posted on 03/23/2010 7:17:43 AM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: Woebama
The Church IS the type of Christianity espoused by Christ.

Whereas the concept of 'Sola Scriptura' believed by so many - of authority coming only from scripture - is anti-scriptural. For as Christ said to Peter:

I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Here we see that the authority of the Church explicitly comes from Christ. Scripture receives its authority from the Church, not the other way round.

16 posted on 03/23/2010 7:25:43 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Woebama

I’m sorry you lost your way. You have left the Church for lack of understanding. Although the administration of the Church is by human and imperfect hands, it is still the institution foretold in Daniel to grow and fill the Earth and promised by Christ and His Apostles. I would simply point you to 1 Tim 3:15 to see that there is a visible Church on Earth and it is meant to be the pillar and ground of truth to the nations.

God bless you.


17 posted on 03/23/2010 7:29:29 AM PDT by pgyanke (You have no "rights" that require an involuntary burden on another person. Period. - MrB)
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To: Woebama

**I was raised as a Catholic, now a Protestant.**

You are always a Catholic. Your Catholic baptism will still be with you at the moment of your death. We welcome you back at any time. Please sit down with a priest and get your questions answered truthfully.


39 posted on 03/23/2010 8:30:10 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Woebama

**God and God’s laws first. Ignoring this has been where Catholics have gone seriously off the reservation with their “church over all other things”type of Christianity.**

Perhaps you need to be more specific in your statement, otherwise -——

This is propaganda being fed to you by Protestants. God and Christ and the Holy Spirit are the center of the Catholic Church. You know that from attending Masses. All three members of the trinity are present during each and every Mass.

Love God — first
Love your neighbor — second

These are the great commandments. The Catholic Church doesn’t go astray with them at all.


41 posted on 03/23/2010 8:33:00 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Woebama

Like your screen name. LOL!


42 posted on 03/23/2010 8:34:30 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Woebama
One of the problems I see is putting more faith in religious rituals instead of a real relationship with Jesus Christ, to save oneself from sin.

If these priests thought for once "what would Jesus think of this?" maybe, just maybe they would have stayed out of trouble, but instead, they listened to the Devil. They think they can hide their dirty deeds from God....nope!

No wonder it is said in the Bible that before the Judgment seat the Lord is going to tell many, "I never knew you."

80 posted on 03/25/2010 7:58:07 PM PDT by pray4liberty
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