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WAS A “RESTORATION” OF THE GOSPEL NECESSARY?
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Posted on 03/19/2010 8:59:34 AM PDT by svcw

“Nothing less than a complete apostasy from the Christian religion would warrant the establishment of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.”—History of the Church, Volume 1, p. XL

According to LDS Scripture, the Apostle John (D&C 7) and the three Nephites (3 Nephi 28) never died. So, how could Gospel “authority” have left the earth, needing “restoration”?

“…in the latter times some shall depart from the faith…”—1 Timothy 4:1

If only “some” would depart from the faith, how could a “complete apostasy” have occurred? Did Jesus fail to preserve His Church against the gates of hell?

“I will build MY church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” —Matthew 16:18

“...that you should earnestly contend for the faith which was once [for all time] delivered unto the saints.” —Jude 3

“...but though we, or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.” —Galatians 1:9


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To: Elsie
 
The Book of Daniel
 

The Book of Daniel
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1  Nebuchadnez'zar the king made an image of gold, whose height was threescore cubits, and the breadth thereof six cubits: he set it up in the plain of Dura, in the province of Babylon.
2  Then Nebuchadnez'zar the king sent to gather together the princes, the governors, and the captains, the judges, the treasurers, the counselors, the sheriffs, and all the rulers of the provinces, to come to the dedication of the image which Nebuchadnez'zar the king had set up.
3  Then the princes, the governors, and captains, the judges, the treasurers, the counselors, the sheriffs, and all the rulers of the provinces, were gathered together unto the dedication of the image that Nebuchadnez'zar the king had set up; and they stood before the image that Nebuchadnez'zar had set up.
4  Then a herald cried aloud, To you it is commanded, O people, nations, and languages,
5  that at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, dulcimer, and all kinds of music, ye fall down and worship the golden image that Nebuchadnez'zar the king hath set up:
6  and whoso falleth not down and worshippeth shall the same hour be cast into the midst of a burning fiery furnace.
7  Therefore at that time, when all the people heard the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and all kinds of music, all the people, the nations, and the languages, fell down and worshipped the golden image that Nebuchadnez'zar the king had set up.
8  ¶ Wherefore at that time certain Chalde'ans came near, and accused the Jews.
9  They spake and said to the king Nebuchadnez'zar, O king, live for ever.
10  Thou, O king, hast made a decree, that every man that shall hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer, and all kinds of music, shall fall down and worship the golden image:
11  and whoso falleth not down and worshippeth, that he should be cast into the midst of a burning fiery furnace.
12  There are certain Jews whom thou hast set over the affairs of the province of Babylon, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed'nego; these men, O king, have not regarded thee: they serve not thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up.
13  ¶ Then Nebuchadnez'zar in his rage and fury commanded to bring Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed'nego. Then they brought these men before the king.
14  Nebuchadnez'zar spake and said unto them, Is it true, O Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed'nego? do not ye serve my gods, nor worship the golden image which I have set up?
15  Now if ye be ready that at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer, and all kinds of music, ye fall down and worship the image which I have made; well: but if ye worship not, ye shall be cast the same hour into the midst of a burning fiery furnace; and who is that God that shall deliver you out of my hands?
16  ¶ Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed'nego, answered and said to the king, O Nebuchadnez'zar, we are not careful to answer thee in this matter.
17  If it be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and he will deliver us out of thine hand, O king.
18  But if not, be it known unto thee, O king, that we will not serve thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up.

401 posted on 03/22/2010 10:14:25 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

thanx. the health care bill passes and then you spam me.
wonderful.


402 posted on 03/22/2010 11:08:30 AM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Elsie

Elsie you are doing God’s work here.
I know people walk to hell with their eyes wide open. It is their choice.
They have learned the Truth here. I will pray for for them.


403 posted on 03/22/2010 11:11:08 AM PDT by svcw (Jesus comforts the uncomfortable and makes uncomfortable the comfortable.)
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To: svcw; Elsie
Elsie you are doing God’s work here. I know people walk to hell with their eyes wide open. It is their choice. They have learned the Truth here. I will pray for for them.

wow are you duped. Elsie needs people like you to praise him and tell him how wonderful he is. His efforts seem to be all about himself. Trust me. I been around these pretenders my entire life.

404 posted on 03/22/2010 11:17:28 AM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

Think what you want II. Troll among trolls, relish your position of king.
Walk head long into hell.
You have read the truth, the choice is yours and yours alone.


405 posted on 03/22/2010 12:09:46 PM PDT by svcw (Jesus comforts the uncomfortable and makes uncomfortable the comfortable.)
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To: svcw
Think what you want II. Troll among trolls, relish your position of king. Walk head long into hell. You have read the truth, the choice is yours and yours alone.

Yo troll. I've read anti-mormon propaganda on your threads. Sorry, but that's it.

406 posted on 03/22/2010 12:14:59 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

You wuz gonna get SPAMMED (posting scripture) no matter what! ;^)


407 posted on 03/22/2010 12:28:08 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
You wuz gonna get SPAMMED (posting scripture) no matter what! ;^)

Your motives will continue to come in to question no matter what. Continue to believe your "spam" won't return unto you void. Just remember I'm a great judge of character. I'm your worst nightmare dude. lol.

408 posted on 03/22/2010 12:31:47 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Elsie needs people like you to praise him and tell him how wonderful he is.

Au contraire, mon ami!

I have a mirror for that!






 
I just KNOW how blessed I am when I look there, and do NOT find something like THIS staring back!
 

 

 

 
Aye-aye I I!


409 posted on 03/22/2010 12:32:08 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
 
 I've read anti-mormon propaganda on your threads.
 
 
That does get tiring; doesn't it.
 
 
Here; have some PRO-Mormon scripture...
 



THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 129
 
Instructions given by Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, February 9, 1843, making known three grand keys by which the correct nature of ministering angels and spirits may be distinguished. HC 5: 267.
1–3, There are both resurrected and spirit bodies in heaven; 4–9, Keys are given whereby messengers from beyond the veil may be identified.
 
  1 There are two kinds of beings in aheaven, namely: bAngels, who are cresurrected personages, having dbodies of flesh and bones—
  2 For instance, Jesus said: Handle me and see, for a spirit hath not aflesh and bones, as ye see me have.
  3 Secondly: the aspirits of bjust men made cperfect, they who are not resurrected, but inherit the same glory.
  4 When a messenger comes saying he has a message from God, offer him your hand and request him to shake hands with you.
  5 If he be an angel he will do so, and you will feel his hand.
  6 If he be the spirit of a just man made perfect he will come in his glory; for that is the only way he can appear—
  7 Ask him to shake hands with you, but he will not move, because it is contrary to the aorder of heaven for a just man to bdeceive; but he will still deliver his message.
  8 If it be the adevil as an angel of light, when you ask him to shake hands he will offer you his hand, and you will not bfeel anything; you may therefore detect him.
  9 These are three grand akeys whereby you may know whether any administration is from God.
 

410 posted on 03/22/2010 12:36:00 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
I have a mirror for that!

Oh I know. Its called behavior not matching up to your proclamations. Take a good looks. Seems ugly.

411 posted on 03/22/2010 12:37:05 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Elsie

Sometimes you seem amazingly dense. You keep mistakenly believing I’m defending Mormon theology. The purpose of me blessing you with my presence on this thread is to defend Mormons against your character assassinations. As far as I’m concerned their doctrines are as flawed as yours.


412 posted on 03/22/2010 12:42:05 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: svcw

bittt


413 posted on 03/22/2010 1:01:57 PM PDT by svcw (Jesus comforts the uncomfortable and makes uncomfortable the comfortable.)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
You keep mistakenly believing I’m defending Mormon theology. The purpose of me blessing you with my presence on this thread is to defend Mormons against your character assassinations. As far as I’m concerned their doctrines are as flawed as yours.

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It doesn't matter. If you defend Mormons, the antis will come after you with hammer and tongs. You are now the enemy.

414 posted on 03/22/2010 1:13:22 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Elsie; P-Marlowe; Tennessee Nana; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix; reaganaut
Mormon Doctrine made simple:


415 posted on 03/22/2010 1:14:31 PM PDT by Gamecock (We aren't sinners because we sin, we sin because we are sinners. (R.C. Sproul))
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To: trisham
I will type this r e a l l y slowly. N o t mormons, mormonISM.
416 posted on 03/22/2010 1:17:07 PM PDT by svcw (Jesus comforts the uncomfortable and makes uncomfortable the comfortable.)
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To: Gamecock

This one of the best graphics ever.


417 posted on 03/22/2010 1:17:35 PM PDT by svcw (Jesus comforts the uncomfortable and makes uncomfortable the comfortable.)
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To: svcw
Mormons and anyone who defends them.

I suspect you can read that, so I didn't type slowly.

418 posted on 03/22/2010 1:18:53 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham
I will type this r e a l l y slowly. N O T mormons, mormonISM.
419 posted on 03/22/2010 1:22:30 PM PDT by svcw (Jesus comforts the uncomfortable and makes uncomfortable the comfortable.)
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To: svcw
I've seen what goes on here with the anti-Mormon crowd. You can type as slowly as you want, there is some despicable ugliness here regarding Mormons and Catholics. If you don't like hearing that, too bad.

Bigotry is ugly.

420 posted on 03/22/2010 1:25:10 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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