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To: Elsie
re: So are you saying that Mormons are Christians ???

The format of FR makes for individuals postings to be lost. If one would go and read everything I posted, then they would get the picture. Here is the most important:

CHRISTIAN. A name first given to the followers of our Lord at Antioch (Acts xi, 26). Since the rise of Protestantism the name has been used in so many different senses as to have become almost meaningless: it may indicate a Catholic or a Unitarian, or even be applied to an infidel who displays some virtue which is associated with Christ. It may reasonably be applied to the members of all the ancient churches whether in communion with the Holy See or not, and to those Protestants who profess, explicitly or implicitly, the Nicean creed in its traditional Interpretation. The Church puts no definite official meaning on the word, as she does on Catholic. (Catholic Dictionary, Donald Attwater 1958, TAN Books)

Protestants do not agree among themselves as to what constitutes a Christian, therefore, a Mormon can call themselves a Christian.

I'll add that Protestants do not agree among themselves on ANYTHING! Not one defined dogma/ absolute truth. Here is the other quote, which explains it better and I had posted with the above definition of Christian:

Slightly Older Catechism: Protestant: Protestants teach that everyone should read the Bible and interpret it for himself. As a result, they do not agree within their own ranks as to just what is to be believed. Indeed, the number of Protestants who believe in the Trinity is diminishing rapidly; and many who profess to believe in it have only a vague notion of what the Trinity means. Therefore, there are many Protestants, including Protestant ministers, who either doubt or deny Christ's divinity, and so can hardly be considered Christians."

334 posted on 03/17/2010 6:01:00 AM PDT by Leoni
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To: Leoni; Elsie

So in all that are you saying that mormons are Christians ???

I’ve asked you and Elsie asked you...

Is that what you are saying ???

Mormons are Christians...

but Protestant Christians are not Christians ???

Getting back to the subject of the thread...

Which is not about Catholicism...

Are anti-mormons such as yourself Christians ???

Do you think mormons are Christians ???


337 posted on 03/17/2010 6:12:34 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Leoni
Interesting reply. Since you apparently believe that Protestants do not have any common belief so therefore are all invalid. What then would you say about the dozens and dozens of lds group who claim to be the true lds? I would say based on what JS taught the flds are the true lds, yet the mainstream lds reject them.
By the way I am not a Protestant or Catholic.
340 posted on 03/17/2010 6:16:41 AM PDT by svcw (Jesus comforts the uncomfortable and makes uncomfortable the comfortable.)
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To: Leoni; Elsie; svcw; Tennessee Nana; metmom; reaganaut
CHRISTIAN. A name first given to the followers of our Lord at Antioch (Acts xi, 26). Since the rise of Protestantism the name has been used in so many different senses as to have become almost meaningless: it may indicate a Catholic or a Unitarian, or even be applied to an infidel who displays some virtue which is associated with Christ. It may reasonably be applied to the members of all the ancient churches whether in communion with the Holy See or not, and to those Protestants who profess, explicitly or implicitly, the Nicean creed in its traditional Interpretation. The Church puts no definite official meaning on the word, as she does on Catholic. (Catholic Dictionary, Donald Attwater 1958, TAN Books)

And

Slightly Older Catechism: Protestant: Protestants teach that everyone should read the Bible and interpret it for himself. As a result, they do not agree within their own ranks as to just what is to be believed. Indeed, the number of Protestants who believe in the Trinity is diminishing rapidly; and many who profess to believe in it have only a vague notion of what the Trinity means. Therefore, there are many Protestants, including Protestant ministers, who either doubt or deny Christ's divinity, and so can hardly be considered Christians."

You are in conflict and I don't even think you have an understanding of the realities behind the definitions you cut and paste.

Yes, there are sects and cults that have fallen into heretical bends that deny certain truths such as the Trinity and Divinity of Christ. The are not even recognized by the Protestant movements from which some of them sprang. the LDS and JWs are examples of this

You post a definition that shows even the Catholic Church recognizes as fellow Christians those who indeed follow the same basic principles as the Catholic Church, then in turn post several screeds that says all protestant faiths are heretical and non Christian.

Not even your own Church says that.

Perhaps it is time to have this discussion with your Priest instead of folks on FR.

382 posted on 03/17/2010 7:50:05 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Palin bashers on freerepublic, like a fart in Church...)
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To: Leoni
Protestants do not agree among themselves as to what constitutes a Christian, therefore, a Mormon can call themselves a Christian.

I could call myself a car, but that wouldn't give me four wheels and a steering wheel.

I'm a little confused by your posts...are you concerned with whether "Anti-mormons are Christian" or are you selling your own brand of faith and jumping on the mormon bandwagon thinking it will further your efforts?

Hardly a wise move.

396 posted on 03/17/2010 8:43:04 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 ("The Economy Is So Bad, Even 'Rosy Scenario' Lost Her Job"-Jim Geraghty)
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To: Leoni
Protestants do not agree among themselves as to what constitutes a Christian, therefore, a Mormon can call themselves a Christian.

Really bad logic!


But, for the sake of argument, let's let the SLC branch of MORMONism call themselves MORMON.

Why then won't THEY let the Flds folks call THEMSELVES MORMON?

448 posted on 03/17/2010 12:12:59 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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