stinkerpot65, again, your saying that Mormons are not Christian boils down to this “we don’t believe exactly how you believe, so we are called non-Christian.” That’s arbitrarily exclusionary. And who made you the arbiter of Christianity.
Wouldn’t you agree that someone who believes in Jesus Christ as the Son of God and Redeemer of mankind through his Atonement, maybe someone that is, say, Christian?
And hey, YOU don’t believe as Mormons believe, so YOU’RE not Christian. You all sound petty and unChrist-like.
Who defines what Mormons believe - Mormons do.
Who defines what Christians believe? Christians do.
Mormons have historically claimed that they are not Christians. In fact, their scripture imortalizes it.
The account currently found in the Pearl of Great Price was written in 1838. In this record young Joseph asked Deity “which of all the sects was right.” The Son of God answered that “they were all wrong; … that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: ’they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.’ ” (JS—H 1:18–19.)
In an 1842 account known as the Wentworth letter, the Prophet wrote, “Two glorious personages … told me that all religious denominations were believing in incorrect doctrines, and that none of them was acknowledged of God as his church and kingdom.” (Backman, First Vision, page 169.)
Why the change now? Is it so more people can be duped into the false Christianity? So that people will be kept ignorant that Mormonism is in fact a different gospel than Christianity?
Who made the LDS arbiters of Christianity.
When you say “Wouldn’t you agree that someone who believes in Jesus Christ as the Son of God and Redeemer of mankind through his Atonement, “ do you mean the same things as when a Christian says it? NO.
Words mean things and the LDS have different views on “son of God”, “redeemer”, “salvation” and “atonement”.
And hey, YOU don’t believe as Mormons believe, so YOU’RE not Christian.
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Up until recently (at least the mid 1990’s), that HAS been the LDS attitude.
However ...
“we don’t believe exactly how you believe, so we are called non-Christian.”
Polytheism and believing that you can become God is a little more than a difference in interpretation. You have made a religion based on the original blasphemous sin of Adam and Eve - i.e. "Eat this fruit and you will be become God."
Who cares what you call yourselves and what anyone else calls you? The bigger issue is that these beliefs are a slap in the face to the sovereignty of God.
Wouldn’t you agree that someone who believes in Jesus Christ as the Son of God and Redeemer of mankind through his Atonement, maybe someone that is, say, Christian?
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No I wouldnt...
And it doesnt pay to cut and paste from the bias and ignorant Anti-Christian website, FAIR (mormon website)
The mormon “atonement” happened according to mormons in the Garden of Gethesmane...Jesus didnt sweat to redeem us...
In Christianity, Jesus shed His Blood on the CROSS and died on the CROSS to save men and women from the penalty of death for our sins...He died in our place...
His BLOOD makes the difference between mormonism and Chrsitianity...
The CROSS makes the difference between mormonism and Chrsitiianity...
Moving on, according to mormonism, their mormon jesus didnt do enough to save them on the CROSS... Eventhough Jesus Himself said “It is finished” the mormons think they have to do it themselves...
Also, Jesus gave His life for the whole world, but even He said not everyone of “mankind” (and “womankind) would be saved...(he who believes Mark 16:16)
The mormons claim that they have to find the names of everyone who ever lived and get them dead dunked to become good mormons to get them “atoned” or “redeemed” ...Good luck with that...Mormons might think they own the genealogy lists of the world all locked up in Cheyenne Mountain, but those records are full of errors and fictious names and dates...lots of those people are not real and never lived...mormons still turn in lists of made up names in order to get brownie points...Oh noes...
Jesus as the Son of God...Mormons deny that Jesus is God, the Word of God, the Second Person of the Trinity, and that He has always existed (a belief in the Trinity is necessary to be a Christian) Mormons believe that the mormon god and Mary had physical sex and concieved the mormon jesus who began to exist fot the first time when he was born...
Mormons believe that jesus had lots of brothers and sisters...us and that Lucifer was the brother of the mormon jesus...in fact the mormons believe that the mormon jesus and Lucifer discussed which one of them would “redeem” mankind” How that happened when the mormon jesus didnt exist until he was born I dont know...its a mormonism mystery...
Mormons are not Christians...
At least we're not NAZI's... yet.