Posted on 03/15/2010 12:07:15 PM PDT by Colofornian
Edited on 03/23/2010 6:15:31 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
When Glenn Beck told listeners of his radio show on March 2 that they should "run as fast as you can" from any church that preached "social or economic justice" because those were code words for Communism and Nazism, he probably thought he was tweaking a few crunchy religious liberals who didn't listen to the show anyway. Instead he managed to outrage Christians in most mainline Protestant denominations, African-American congregations, Hispanic churches, and Catholics...
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Is that true in all forms of math?
Does AxB = BxA always?
You still don’t seem to grasp it. Too bad Christ hasn’t quickened you to have the eyes to see, or ears to hear.
I’ll give you a hint. It isn’t all about urroner, God is sovereign. If he wants you he’ll get you.
Mormons don’t earn salvation for those whom they do the work for. I don’t know where you come out with this dribble.
And if worshiping God meant you being pregnant for the eternities, would you still be willing to worship God and would you be happy about that. If you can say no to that, then you are making it about YOU and what YOU want.
You will sin and so will I. It is part of the fallen world system. You deserve eternal death and so do I. It’s part of God’s justice. God has saved me through his love and sacrifice. It is part of Grace. Are you still trying to save yourself? It is part of self-aggrandizement.
I gladly do what an omnipotent God asks of me.
Will I be eternally pregnant in order to appease a god that was once a man who wanted sex for all eternity? That my friend is hell. Welcome to it.
Who earns it for them. Why do Mormons call these works that they do on behalf of others, "Saving Works?"
From the above link at lds.org
In His mercy and infinite love, the Lord has prepared a way for them to gain a testimony of the gospel and receive the saving ordinances of the priesthood. Our effort approaches the spirit of the Savior's atoning sacrifice—we perform a saving work for others that they cannot do for themselves.
Colorcountry, I thought you have said that you were Mormon at one time. First off, do Mormons believe that without the grace of God that we can be saved?
If God is a God of love and is 100% in control and He doesn’t save me, then it’s because He didn’t really love me and wanted me to roast in Hell for the eternities. He loves you because He saved you and wants to plop you on a fluffy cloud to sing praises to Him every day for the eternities.
“Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed — not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence — continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his good purpose.” (Phil. 2:12, 13, NIV)
Then you are not as humble as you seem to proclaim to me that you are.
What sacrifices are you willing to make for God and for His pleasure? If your eternal suffering brought God pleasure and He asked you to do it, would you do it?
I doubt if He would, but I’m just seeing it you can say that it’s truly about what God wants and you would do it or if you put your desire before God’s desire.
Let him who has ears, hear. Keep working hard urroner, and deny the atonement. Work yourself to Godhood and see what it gets you.
A simple google of your verse will reveal much (if you wish to learn)
God would not require this for eternity. If your god does, I suggest you worship the devil.
Without the grace of God, colorcountry, do Mormons believe that there is salvation?
No
But to a Christian salvation is the same word as your word exaltation.
Let me ask you this, urroner. Is there exaltation through Grace alone?
Once again, you are avoiding the question.
I’m not saying that God would want you to suffer for the eternities, but earlier you said that it’s not about what I wanted, and, I assume from that, that it’s is not about what you want.
Are you willing to do whatever God wanted you to do for the eternities rather it’s sitting on a cloud and playing a harp or constantly cleaning the latrines in Heaven, or being pregnant forever. Are you willing to put your will before God’s will?
how specifically was my logic circular
Do you use the Bible to demonstrate that the Bible is infallible and is inerrant and is the perfect word of God.
Of course urroner. Everything is God’s. I gladly give my life and my eternity to God, because I trust him.
And because I trust him, I understand that eternity means I am not eternally pregnant.
Sheesh, sometimes Mormonism can really warp its adherents minds. Why even ask such a question?
Exaltation does not equate to the typical Christian belief of salvation. Your first statement is false, but I thought that since you use to be a Mormon at one time, you knew that.
It certainly does. (from lds. org)
Exaltation
See Eternal Life
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