Posted on 03/15/2010 12:07:15 PM PDT by Colofornian
Edited on 03/23/2010 6:15:31 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
When Glenn Beck told listeners of his radio show on March 2 that they should "run as fast as you can" from any church that preached "social or economic justice" because those were code words for Communism and Nazism, he probably thought he was tweaking a few crunchy religious liberals who didn't listen to the show anyway. Instead he managed to outrage Christians in most mainline Protestant denominations, African-American congregations, Hispanic churches, and Catholics...
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Arrogance, I don’t think so. You people have damned me to hell and the whole while you have talked about you being saved and it was nothing you did to save yourself. It was all grace.
So if it’s grace alone, what can I do to be saved?
Oh, now you are using the old “My God can beat up your God” argument. It’s been a long time since I heard that argument, golly, I have heard it since like last Thursday. Please continue with this argument, I can never get enough of it.
Just like my not reading long cut and paste, I don’t read long list of verses just slapped up on a page with the person attempting to explain why each of those scriptures defend their position.
Oops, meant to say “without the person attempting to explain...”
you wont read, you wont investigate Scripture....not one simple verse from each example i gave.....I demonstrated my position and the position of mainstream Christians, and then you deny & obfuscate with "I wont read", yet claim you can align yourself in the same body as Scriptural Christianity
how terribly sad
Mormons do not accept the Nicene creed , they are not trinitarians they are polytheists
That is my point
I have read the Bible, several times, and I have investigated and what bothers you is that I am able to come to a different conclusion from you and that really bothers you a lot.
You throw a bunch of verses on the screen and say “Look, I am right and you are wrong,” but you don’t take the time to explain how these verses back up your beliefs. I can do the same thing also and then at the end say “I have tried to show you truth, but you have rejected Jesus. How terribly sad.” but it all reality, I haven’t done anything other than throw a bunch of verses up on the screen and then demanded that you interpret them the same way I do.
To RnMomof7, and your point is? How much do you know about the history of the Nicene Creed?
We have not "damned you to hell."
urroner, we are all damned. We all sin and fall short of the glory - all of us DESERVE hell. Those of us who rely upon Christ find salvation.
Some people cannot have faith that Christ has done the work - completed the job. They rely on their own works, ordinances and covenants to "complete" the work of the cross. That is NOT faith in Christ. That is faith in yourself.
How many Saved Christians have I met in my life who said that they were saved and that there was nothing they could do to stop them from being saved? But then again, your definition of “damned” might be a lot different from mine.
So, is it grace alone, or is it mostly grace and just a little bit of work?
Grace alone. If you are saved by grace, through faith which is not a work but a gift of God, then you will naturally do good to your fellow man in love - the love of God.
Your LDS man-made ordinances or “covenants” have nothing to do with love OR salvation. Christ did what mankind cannot. (I define salvation in the way LDS would define exaltation.)
Have you “damned those to hell” (or the lowest kingdom in your LDS belief) who never have the saving ordinances performed on their behalf?
Just keep posting the truth, Rev. We have prior experience with mormon disdain.
Some folks are perfect examples of the mormon superiority mindset as they truly believe that they are "gods in embryo", donchaknow.
MORMON
ATTITUDES OF SUPERIORITY
1. Im Superior; I have a special gift of the holy Ghost -- you dont!
2. Im Superior; I have Gods true priesthood power -- you dont! 3. Im Superior; I can go in Gods secret Temple -- you cant! 4. Im Superior; Ive been Endowed with special Gifts and Knowledge -- youre just normal! 5. Im Superior; Ill have my family with me in heaven -- youll be with strangers! 6. Im Superior; Im becoming a God -- you arent! 7. Im Superior; My women know their place as servants of man and yours dont. 8. Im Superior; YOUR creeds are wrong because they come from man - mine comes from God (you can find each one printed in our Scriptures). 9. Im Superior; I dont HAVE a creed - Ive got 13 Articles of Faith. 10. I'm Superior; I have 4 "Bibles"-- the standard works (5 if you count the JST) -- you've only got one: in as far as it is translated correctly. 11. Im Superior; I can lie with impunity about such things as church membership, church growth, church doctrine, church history, church influence, etc. -- You cant. 12. Im Superior; I am right (everybody knows) when I say 'evangelical' Christians are lunatics -- -- Youre a hideous narrow-minded bigot, who is persecuting me by practicing discrimination by saying I'm not a Christian.
13. I'm Superior; I have a testimony about a prophet -- you don't. 14. I'm Superior; I have a Scripture-producing Amos 3:7 prophet -- you don't 15. Im Superior; I have a Living Prophet who talks to god every day -- you have a dim-witted hireling of Satan who only talks to himself. 16. I'm Superior; I have my calling & election made sure -- you don't. 17. Im Superior; I have magic underwear to protect me from the bogey man -- you dont. 18. Im Superior; I have secret clasps and grips to give the angel so I get admitted to the celestial kingdom -- you dont ;so you cant. 19. I'm Superior; I know secret handshake codes for afterlife entrances-- you don't. 20. Im Superior; I will see Joseph Smith setting on the right hand of GOD, when I get to Mormon heaven, and he will recognize me and judge me favorably -- Youre on your own; when you get to wherever youre going! 21. Im Superior; Im going to hie to Kolob -- youre going to who knows where. 22. Im Superior; I get to have a harem and act like a celestial stud for time and all eternity -- you dont. 23. Im Superior; I have sun stones, moon stones, sky stones, cloud stones, Saturn stones, and the evil eye of Osirus guarding my temple -- all you have is a stupid cross. 24. Im Superior; My church has billions in assets stashed away -- yours has taken a stupid vow of poverty. 25. I'm Superior; Last - we have the power to keep a whole race out of our priesthood if we wanted to reinsert our 148-year legacy (we ARE still keeping an entire GENDER at bay!) Revision 46.1
Semi-Official creed of the EXclusive club of Freeper Flying Inmans.
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Some folks ALSO have the mistaken impression that the information posted here is aimed at convincing THEM....
(I just love Elsie's footnote to the "Superiority" chart ;)
My vote for the most ridiculous, democrat-talking-point of the month, ROTFL...
bitttt
LOL
i would be adding to Scripture if I did - I let the verses stand n their own - they need nothing from me - you refused to even look at the after having challenged me -
do I need to print each one out to demonstrate how tenuous your position is?... I mean I can if you want - but youll just reply with "thats their "tradition" when I begin quoting patriarch's and their commentaries.
You've neither demonstrated to me why you believe what you do - youve claimed to be from the same body catholic (little c) yet cite nothing from the Bible to substantiate your assertion, yet have audaciously thrust the burden of proof....Im not claiming to be mormon - you are claiming to be Christian, in spite of theological evidence to the contrary.
Pony up or quit wasting our time....
PS - several more readings from several different translations may help....I found it beneficial in preparing my sermons
"the mormon position limits God by limiting His influence upon men in their ability to convey the message"...with the exception of false prophet, Joseph Smith and continuing down the line with all the other false mormon prophets. That's why mormons are so "special".
Oh, just remember that every post bumps the thread so more lurkers can see the truth.
Ever hear of “work for the dead?”
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