[wmfights]

Ambrose was a saintly man -- whether he started out bad (like Paul or Augstine), he was saved and became a Doctor of The Church and spread and taught Church doctrine.

From what I've seen he was a political appointment that helped your church become an integral part of the state. Ambrose came from the ruling class and was comfortable at the highest levels of imperial power. He was a masterful politician who was very good at creating enemies of the state out of any Jews, pagans, or non conforming Christians.

Ambrose is a clear point where aristocrats began to control your church. It can be claimed he came from a good Christian home, but there is no indication of it in his actions or his father. Once in power his crowning achievement is increasing your church's power. He supported the persecution of the Jews and was involved in the growth of the cult of relics, not the behavior of someone I would consider a notable Christian.

[Cronos]

wmfights: It can be claimed he came from a good Christian home,

So then you retract your statement made in post 14
where you said

Not surprising coming from a man who went from being a pagan to a Bishop in your church in about 2 weeks time

Do you retract that statement?

The fact that you made this error and more importantly kept stubbornly sticking to this despite seeing the complete text (as opposed to making a flawed individual interpretation based on incomplete text)shows how incorrect individual interpretation is a common sola interpretura error which also plays out in the sola's folks's reading of The Bible -- sola interpretura folks may read one thing like " St Ambrose was baptized, " and ASSUME that he was born a pagan. That error comes from not having a complete knowledge and presuming that the incomplete knowledge is complete -- you didn't lie, but you made an incorrect assumption based on incomplete and misunderstood facts.

That is the folly of relying on an individuals (as opposed to a community of believers stretching back 2000 years) interpretation.

[Cronos]

You evidently aren't reading the posts. This is from post 531

Proceeding to the basilica in which the disunited clergy and people were assembled, he began a conciliatory discourse in the interest of peace and moderation, but was interrupted by a voice (according to Paulinus, the voice of an infant) crying, "Ambrose, Bishop". The cry was instantly repeated by the entire assembly, and Ambrose, to his surprise and dismay, was unanimously pronounced elected.

Simple -- a group of laity and clergy gather and then they start changing for Ambrose to become bishop. Are you saying that he should have been disqualified?