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To: wmfights; xone; Titanites

wmfights: It can be claimed he came from a good Christian home,

So then you retract your statement made in post 14
where you said
Not surprising coming from a man who went from being a pagan to a Bishop in your church in about 2 weeks time
Do you retract that statement?


The fact that you made this error and more importantly kept stubbornly sticking to this despite seeing the complete text (as opposed to making a flawed individual interpretation based on incomplete text)shows how incorrect individual interpretation is a common sola interpretura error which also plays out in the sola's folks's reading of The Bible -- sola interpretura folks may read one thing like " St Ambrose was baptized, " and ASSUME that he was born a pagan. That error comes from not having a complete knowledge and presuming that the incomplete knowledge is complete -- you didn't lie, but you made an incorrect assumption based on incomplete and misunderstood facts.

That is the folly of relying on an individuals (as opposed to a community of believers stretching back 2000 years) interpretation.
647 posted on 03/19/2010 8:19:03 PM PDT by Cronos (St. Ambrose -- elected by popular acclaim)
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To: Cronos; xone; Titanites
Not surprising coming from a man who went from being a pagan to a Bishop in your church in about 2 weeks time

Do you retract that statement?

I don't see any evidence that Ambrose was a Christian prior to his baptism and his behavior following is mixed at best. I realize RC's want to put this guy up on a pedestal because he played such a big role in establishing the church/state connection. However, if he was a Christian coming from a Christian home why wasn't he baptized until 8 days before becoming bishop of Milan?

RC's argue infant baptism has always been practiced and imparts Grace. It's not like he was way out in the middle of nowhere until 8 days before becoming bishop and hadn't gotten the memo. All the objective information we have points to the conclusion that he was a political figure that was able to get the state to allow persecution of those who held to different beliefs.

687 posted on 03/20/2010 7:13:12 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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