[xone]

Lutherans disagree with those that make predestination the source of salvation rather than Christ’s suffering, death, and resurrection.

I've never heard predestination as the source of salvation, nor seen it posted here so that is a strawman argument unless you know a denom that teaches that. But thanks for telling me what Lutherans believe. I can imagine the cacophony arising from a Lutheran or some flavor of Protestant telling catholics what they believe. You are 1 for 3 here. Unbelief is the cause of damnation, unbelief in sin and the Redeemer. Confessional Lutherans reject predestination to damnation. Lib lutherans reject Christianity.

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Of the Election of Grace

[Belteshazzar]

xone wrote:

“Confessional Lutherans reject predestination to damnation. Lib lutherans reject Christianity.”

Exactly right. But you can extend it a bit: “Lib (fill in the blank with whatever denominational label, including Catholics) reject Christianity.” There is a difference between arguing about the details of the faith once given to the saints, which are - make no mistake - very important and if distorted enough can mislead some into unbelief, and rejecting the basis of the faith once given to the faith.

[Cronos]

I've never heard predestination as the source of salvation

Of course, if you believe the Calvinist argument, that is the conclusion -- Calvin would say that you were predestined to be saved.

[Cronos]

But thanks for telling me what Lutherans believe --> you're right -- that was wrong of me, I apologize.