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To: xone
I've never heard predestination as the source of salvation

Of course, if you believe the Calvinist argument, that is the conclusion -- Calvin would say that you were predestined to be saved.
658 posted on 03/19/2010 8:35:09 PM PDT by Cronos (St. Ambrose -- elected by popular acclaim)
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To: Cronos

Romans 8:29

“For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.”

I don’t think Calvin came up with predestination.


661 posted on 03/19/2010 8:38:42 PM PDT by esquirette (If we do not know our own worldview, we will accept theirs.)
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To: Cronos
Calvin would say that you were predestined to be saved.

Confessional Lutherans would say the same thing, Scripture is absolutely clear on that. Neither claim that predestination is the source of salvation. I'll go out on the limb speaking for the Calvinists here. It is a slam dunk.

663 posted on 03/19/2010 9:07:56 PM PDT by xone
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