Posted on 03/14/2010 12:14:46 PM PDT by NYer
And wow, that’s a lot. I knew there were many but I didn’t realize there were *that* many. Aie-yaah and I didn’t even put all the ones there are on that list, I only took from the first few links.
I have a picture of Quix but don’t bow and worship at his feet or call him blessed...LOL. He’s a precious brother in Christ to many of us.
Actually, if you read what the apparitions supposedly say, none of them are against God. They are always pointing to Jesus Christ, our Lord, savior and God, the Son of God and born of mary
I don’t and the Church doesn’t consider the apparitions as a testiment for The Faith, but these are not satanic — if they were, then Satan would be properly directing people away from God, instead of towards Him.
Haha, you a fool? They couldn’t possibly really believe that. And thank you very much for your kind stewardship, that very thing I feel for you as well.
I think you are right on their dirth, and it is pitiful.
You know though, I did get an idea from them. A potter is not that far off from a sculptor. Wouldn’t it be cool if you did make a statue of yourself? I’d make one of me if I had the means. It’d be a hoot! Something small enough to put on a table, and not a bust but a full statue. A pose with my sword and in a sword stance, and maybe while wearing my armor, ooh and a cape! What would your pose be? Or maybe.. a real GIANT one! Like the statues in Egypt. Why not? Who wouldn’t want a huge statue of themself? Or you can even go far out and make one that is just a huge head and stick it in the corner of a room! Haha wow wouldn’t that sure make a conversation. “What is that? A big head? What’s it doing there?”
Just for giggles, and for the edification of other readers, here is the text of the three prophecies of Fatima:
The first secret was a vision of Hell:
Our Lady showed us a great sea of fire which seemed to be under the earth. Plunged in this fire were demons and souls in human form, like transparent burning embers, all blackened or burnished bronze, floating about in the conflagration, now raised into the air by the flames that issued from within themselves together with great clouds of smoke, now falling back on every side like sparks in a huge fire, without weight or equilibrium, and amid shrieks and groans of pain and despair, which horrified us and made us tremble with fear. The demons could be distinguished by their terrifying and repulsive likeness to frightful and unknown animals, all black and transparent. This vision lasted but an instant. How can we ever be grateful enough to our kind heavenly Mother, who had already prepared us by promising, in the first Apparition, to take us to heaven. Otherwise, I think we would have died of fear and terror.[5]
The second half requests that Russia be consecrated to the Immaculate Heart:
You have seen hell where the souls of poor sinners go. To save them, God wishes to establish in the world devotion to my Immaculate Heart. If what I say to you is done, many souls will be saved and there will be peace. The war is going to end: but if people do not cease offending God, a worse one will break out during the Pontificate of Pius XI. When you see a night illumined by an unknown light*, know that this is the great sign given you by God that he is about to punish the world for its crimes, by means of war, famine, and persecutions of the Church and of the Holy Father. To prevent this, I shall come to ask for the consecration of Russia to my Immaculate Heart, and the Communion of reparation on the First Saturdays. If my requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace; if not, she will spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the Church. The good will be martyred; the Holy Father will have much to suffer; various nations will be annihilated. In the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph. The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to me, and she shall be converted, and a period of peace will be granted to the world.[6]
The text of the Third Secret was published on 26 June 2000:
I write in obedience to you, my God, who command me to do so through his Excellency the Bishop of Leiria and through your Most Holy Mother and mine. After the two parts which I have already explained, at the left of Our Lady and a little above, we saw an Angel with a flaming sword in his left hand; flashing, it gave out flames that looked as though they would set the world on fire; but they died out in contact with the splendour that Our Lady radiated towards him from her right hand: pointing to the earth with his right hand, the Angel cried out in a loud voice: 'Penance, Penance, Penance!'. And we saw in an immense light that is God: something similar to how people appear in a mirror when they pass in front of it' a Bishop dressed in White 'we had the impression that it was the Holy Father'. Other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious going up a steep mountain, at the top of which there was a big Cross of rough-hewn trunks as of a cork-tree with the bark; before reaching there the Holy Father passed through a big city half in ruins and half trembling with halting step, afflicted with pain and sorrow, he prayed for the souls of the corpses he met on his way; having reached the top of the mountain, on his knees at the foot of the big Cross he was killed by a group of soldiers who fired bullets and arrows at him, and in the same way there died one after another the other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious, and various lay people of different ranks and positions. Beneath the two arms of the Cross there were two Angels each with a crystal aspersorium in his hand, in which they gathered up the blood of the Martyrs and with it sprinkled the souls that were making their way to God. The third part of the secret revealed at the Cova da Iria-Fátima, on 13 July 1917.
Wikipedia: "Three Secrets of Fatima" (as Src)
Further reading from the Vatican.
It seems the promises within these prophecies point to "triumphant Mary," and not toward God at all. In fact, it is this stunning departure from The Prophecy which causes it to be questionable (to be kind).
Yep. I pray fervently that God opens the eyes of our dear Catholic friends who have been taken in by this deception.
I have never knowingly had a conversation with an angel, though I do not doubt that I have had such conversations unknowingly.
To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers. John 10:3-5
Thank you so much for your wonderfully insightful essay-post, dearest sister in Christ!
“I write in obedience to you, my God”, “Beneath the two arms of the Cross there were two Angels each with a crystal aspersorium in his hand, in which they gathered up the blood of the Martyrs and with it sprinkled the souls that were making their way to God” —> directed to God
I have not read thru the comments on this thread, but I have read the original posting. The author is not a protestant, he is a convert to Roman Catholicism. It seems he was Angelican, and this reach for him is not far. It is interesting that he got there thru Scripture, rather than Church teaching.
My take...Jesus is the Son of God, He is God, He is my Lord. I do not need a meadiator, He is my mediator. And He sent the Holy Spirit to indwell me. Yes, Mary was used by God to bring Jesus to earth, born of the flesh and born of God. He is established through this as ‘son of David’. His genealogy is also important, and includes three women, two of whom were not Israelites.
My point - Jesus is my Lord and my Savior. The Holy Spirit, another Comforter sent, is my indwelling guide. I do not need intermediaries. I understand my Catholic friends, and know that some of them feel otherwise. We even have some Rosary Beads here in our home, left by a close Catholic relative. I am ok with that. That person had a close personal relationship with our Lord, and I had the privilege of sharing a word relating to him in a Catholic Church at his funeral.
The claim that Ambrose was a pagan was yours, not Paul Johnson's. You can quote Johnson all you want, but it still doesn't show that St. Ambrose was a pagan before he was baptised.
The sola scriptura crowd can't get history straight and then they wonder why we don't believe their interpretation of scripture. Go figure.
off topic
http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/youtube.asp
THERE IS A VIRUS SPREADING LIKE WILDFIRE ON FaceBook. DO NOT ACCEPT ANYTHING THAT ASKs YOU TO WATCH A VIDEO ON YOUTUBE. SNOPES JUST CONFIRMED. IT IS A TROJAN WORM VIRUS. IT WILL STEAL INFO, INFEST YOUR SYSTEM AND SHUT IT DOWN. DO NOT OPEN THE LINK.
You know the sola scriptura crowds rules, Cronos. You can jump to that conclusion only if it is in reference to Catholics.
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