As an Ex Cath its my understanding that pro-abortion politicians must do a true and heartfelt confession before receiving the sacrament. One must not accept the communion in a state of unrepentant sin.
"Sanctions" That's what it's called now?
Run down a list, how about an adulterer, perjurer, Protestant?
If the Catholic hierarchy doesn’t consider the slaughter of tens of millions of unborn babies a cardinal sin, what in the world does it consider a cardinal sin?
This is why the Church continues to lose credibility on this issue. They should PUBLICLY excommunicate pro-abortion polls. This would increase their credibility, their attendance and their income. The last thing people need is a wishy washy Church leadership.
“A spoonful of sugar is better than a spoonful of vinegar any day.”
Thank goodness it’s not Bishop Daniel Dolan of Cincinnati!
Now a 17 year old scared girl gets an abortion...out she goes..no money no power
Has he mentioned this to the Pope yet?
I don’t know how many times I have to repeat it: publicly denying Communion to a pro-abort is
EXACTLY
WHAT
THEY
WANT
DOLAN
TO
DO
Because then they will be the martyrs and Dolan the Grand Inquisitor.
The bishops lost the ability to impose sanction when they refused to do so back when public opinion would have taken them seriously.
Now they are stuck. If they publicly confront the Pelosis, Pelosis turns it back against them. If they don’t publicly confront the Pelosis get away with murder.
Yeah, sooner or later they are going to have to excommunicate the Pelosis and take the heat.
But all of you folks out their screaming for the bishops to take this step
WHAT WILL YOU DO TO COVER THEIR BACKS WHEN THEY FINALLY DO IT?
Do you realize what will happen when they do it? Will you do something to change the public backlash? What exactly will you do?
Armchair bishop-scolding is cheap. What exactly are we going to do to help make this work when the bishops finally do it?
Do you realize that the horses are out of the barn, that the Pelosis know they are now beyond the reach of the bishops? That the Pelosis don’t give a damn about any old bishop’s disciplining of them? That the Pelosis are giving the bishops the finger?
Armchair-scold the bishops if you must but for every time you denounce a bishop for not taking the steps you want them to take, take a half-dozen shots at the Pelosis. If you live in a district represented by one of these monsters, before bashing your bishop, bash the pro-abort pols in your district a dozen times. Then you can self-righteously preach at your bishop.
Yes, it’s the bishops’ fault they are in this pickle.
But they are in this pickle. And they need lay Catholics to help them out of it.
As an Ex-Catholic, it will be great to see the day when Rudy Giuliani, Christine Quinn, and Carolyn McCarty are denied communion.
Either the teaching of the Church means something, or it doesn't. If the leaders of the Church are not going to insist that those who profess belief in the Church follow its precepts, then those have no meaning. If so, why have them at all? Just excess baggage. If the Church will not stand against the most egregious sin of the world, how is it different?
Good luck with that. Niederauer was so successful with Nancy Pelosi...
This policy has caused havoc in the Church and has left the various wolves in place to harm the Church from within. This is in my view a serious failure in charity towards these recalcitrant Catholics, the faithful, and failing in the munus of governing the Church. Hence more of the same. The whole point of penalties is that they are medicinal: to confront the recalcitrant with the consequences of their behavior and protect the faithful. Is the Pope really on board with this? Don’t think so.
Archbishop Burke has PROVEN that obeying Canon 915 is a grave obligation. That means, as the laity usually term it, it is a mortal sin to disobey Canon 915.
As long as Archbishop Dolan, or any other bishop, priest, deacon, or extraordinary minister of Communion knowingly refuses to obey Canon 915, then they should either publish an article showing why Archbishop Burke is mistaken, or they themselves should abstain from Communion.
The Archdiocese of New York (and all but about a dozen dioceses in the country) has a bishop who is obstinately persisting in public grave sin, and should not be receiving Communion.
But surely all those bishops couldn’t be wrong, could they, while only a dozen are doing the right thing!!!
There was only one Catholic bishop in England who did not cave to Henry VIII. And he’s the only one whose name is not forgotten by everyone except history buffs. And he’s the only one who is a saint.
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Denial of Communion is NOT a “sanction” or a “penalty.”
Archbishop Dolan is either a liar or is too ignorant of Canon Law to be allowed to remain as an archbishop.
I am not kidding.
Canon 915 is NOT a “penal canon.” I.e., the denial of Communion is required by divine law. It is an obligation. It is not something that a bishop is FREE to do or not do. If he does deny Communion, he is NOT “imposing a sanction.” He is simply obeying the direct command contained in Canon 915. It is NOT OPTIONAL. It is NOT a matter of the bishop’s discretion or judgment. It is a strict obligation.
In other words, Archbishop Dolan is saying: In my diocese, Canon Law and the moral law are optional; they are up to me to write and rewrite as I please.
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Bad news. Without courage, all other virtues are useless. This man is useless.
But in the end, a stand will have to be made or the American Catholic church will fade into the shadows. It may cause a split, but you have to stand for something.