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Catholic Biblical Apologetics: Comparison of Terms for Disputed Books
CatholicApologetics.org ^ | 1985-1991 | Dr. Robert Schihl and Paul Flanagan

Posted on 03/04/2010 9:00:38 PM PST by Salvation

Catholic Biblical Apologetics


Apologetics without apology!


What does the Roman Catholic Church teach about ...? ... and why?

This website surveys the origin and development of Roman Catholic Christianity from the period of the apostolic church, through the post-apostolic church and into the conciliar movement. Principal attention is paid to the biblical basis of both doctrine and dogma as well as the role of paradosis (i.e. handing on the truth) in the history of the Church. Particular attention is also paid to the hierarchical founding and succession of leadership throughout the centuries.

This is a set of lecture notes used since 1985 to teach the basis for key doctrines and dogmas of the Roman Catholic Church. The objectives of the course were, and are:

The course grew out of the need for the authors to continually answer questions about their faith tradition and their work. (Both authors are active members of Catholic parish communities in the Diocese of Richmond, Virginia. Dr. Robert Schihl was a Professor and Associate Dean of the School of Communication and the Arts at Regent University. Paul Flanagan is a consultant specializing in preparing people for technology based changes.) At the time these notes were first prepared, the authors were spending time in their faith community answering questions about their Protestant Evangelical workplaces (Mr. Flanagan was then a senior executive at the Christian Broadcasting Network), and time in their workplaces answering similar questions about their Roman Catholic faith community. These notes are the result of more than a decade of facilitating dialogue among those who wish to learn more about what the Roman Catholic Church teaches and why.

Comparison of Terms for Disputed Books

Comparison of Terms for Disputed Books


Protestant Christian Catholic Christian
"apocryphal" books "deuterocanonical" books
Sirach (Ecclesiasticus) Sirach (Ecclesiasticus)
Wisdom of Solomon Wisdom of Solomon
Baruch Baruch
Tobit Tobit
Judith Judith
Greek Esther (Esther 10:4-10) Greek Esther
Greek Daniel Greek Daniel
Song of the Three Young Men, Dan 3:24-90;
Susanna, Dan 13;
Bel and the Dragon, Dan 14
1 Maccabees 1 Maccabees
2 Maccabees 2 Maccabees
1 Esdras
2 Esdras
Prayer of Manasseh

Protestant Christian"pseudepigrapha" books
Catholic Christian"apocryphal" books

Old Testament works

Enoch Literature; Esdras Literature (1-2 Esdras); Baruch Literature (2-3 Baruch);
Psalms of Solomon; Testaments of the Twelve Apostles; Sibylline Oracles;
Letter of Aristeus to Philocrates; Assumption of Moses;
Maccabean Literature (3-4 Maccabees); Prayer of Manasseh

New Testament works

Didache; Apocalypses of Peter, Paul, Thomas; 1-2 Clement;
Gospels of Thomas, Philip, Peter, Hebrews; Hermas;
Acts of Pilate; Barnabas; Protoevangelium of James;
To the Laodiceans; Various Papyruses; To Seneca;
Epistola Apostolorum; Acts of John, Paul, Andrew, Thomas.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: apologetics; bible; catholic; catholiclist
Continuing with the "Bible" section
1 posted on 03/04/2010 9:00:38 PM PST by Salvation
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2 posted on 03/04/2010 9:02:48 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Foundation

Catholic Biblical Apologetics: Foundation: Apologetics Without Apology
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: Foundation: An Incomplete Picture
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: Foundation: Dearly Beloved Catholic Brothers and Sisters

Being Catholic and Christian: Faith and Salvation

Catholic Biblical Apologetics:Being Catholic & Christian:Faith and Salvation-Authoriative
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: Being Catholic & Christian: Apostolic Confessions of Faith
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: Post-Apostolic Confessions of Faith
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: Salvation: A Biblical Portrait
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: Salvation: "Being Saved"
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: The Catholic Response to "Are You Saved?"
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: The Knowledge of Salvation
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: Faith and Works
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: The Process of Christian Initiation

The Church: A Biblical Portrait - A New Testament Apologetic

Catholic Biblical Apologetics: The Church: A Biblical Portrait - A New Testament Apologetic: Jesus Christ preached a Reign or Kingdom, the Kingdom of God (or of heaven).
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: Jesus preached an end-times kingdom but one already existing on earth
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: Jesus preached that the kingdom was primarily spiritual and internal but also visible and external.
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: Christ called and founded an exclusive, inner core group of twelve men called the "apostles."
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: Christ committed His very mission to this twelve man inner core group, his Apostles, alone.
Christ gave to the Twelve, the Apostles, the power of ruling, teaching and sanctifying.
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: This same church Christ willed to endure until the end of the world.
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: Christ instituted only one church, and that society was both formally and specifically a visible one.
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: The Marks of the Church, One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: Labels Among Christians
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: Genealogy of Christian Faith Communities, Roman Catholicism
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: American Christian Branches Among European Founded Churches
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: Modes of Transmitting Authoritative Doctrine

Divine Revelation "By Letter" (2 Thes 2:15) The Bible

Catholic Biblical Apologetics: Divine Revelation "By Letter" (2 Thess 2:15): The Bible
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: Divine Revelation
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: The Bible: Written Revelation
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: The Hebrew Scriptures: Books of the Old Testament
Historical and Geographical Background for the Development of the Two Old Testament Canons
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: Background Chart: Development of the Old Testament Canons
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: Chronology of the Apostolic Age and the Development of the New Testament Canon
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: Comparison of Terms for Disputed Books

3 posted on 03/04/2010 9:07:20 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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The key point is the terminology


4 posted on 03/05/2010 4:15:00 AM PST by Cronos (Philipp2:12, 2Cor5:10, Rom2:6, Matt7:21, Matt22:14, Lu12:42-46,John15:1-10,Rev2:4-5,Rev22:19)
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The key point is the terminology.

Thanks for the ping. Is the distinction you're highlighting that "apocrypha" means uninspired and "deuterocanonical" means inspired?

If so, then one thing I still do not understand is how the Catholic Church explains that it has not added to scripture. Deuterocanonical appears to mean "second canon", and it seems that it took over one thousand years to establish this second canon after the first canon was closed. If so, is a third or fourth canon possibly to come (within the realm of theoretical possibility) that will also be considered inspired? Does the Magisterium have the theoretical power to do such if it was in agreement? I am thinking of books that are now considered apocrypha by Catholics, but may gain more favor in the future, or to theoretically yet undiscovered books which (would) appear to have a similar pedigree to books in the canon now.

5 posted on 03/05/2010 1:24:11 PM PST by Forest Keeper ((It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.))
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