I probably should just keep my mouth shut about this one because my comments probably would not contribute to the discussion. So I will.
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I am not a supporter of IVF - for the reasons exposed in the article. Life suspended in a petri dish for whatever reason, is inhumane.
When science perverts the gift of life, it ends in death.
Another one to ping out.
He’s right, it is an insoluble situation. Even if there were no moral issues with embryo adoption, the survival rate for reanimated embryos is even lower than with immediate implantion. Many would die, and would-be parents would suffer great unhappiness and potential permanent health damage.
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One of the problems that the separation of “church and state” mentality has caused...is a degrading of ethics and humanity.
Humans are increasingly becoming commodities that you can make money off of, or can eliminate when they become too costly.
You can create them when they are wanted and discard them when they are not.
Science needs the guidance.
Just because you can do something doesn’t mean that you should.
Although IVF is wrong, how can we not save as many as these embryos as possible?
Since most other Christian churches do NOT have a problem with IVF, why not have THEIR members be implanted with, and adopt these babies? Why should it be considered a big, hairy deal that the Catholic Church teaches against the practice? Surely there are more than just Catholic families who would be interested in adopting these “Snowflake” babies.
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Some problems don't have an easy solution. This is one example. Lives are not commodities to be "created" (life isn't created by humans, but that's another topic...) for others' enjoyment. Now, these little unborn babies are living in a frozen condition - for how long? How long can they be viable? No doubt heartless utilitarians will want them - and many already are AFAIK - to be "used" for experimentation or industrial purposes.
This is not one whit different from what the Nazis did. Not a single bit different. It's the same thing - using humans as fodder. Another reason why IVF is wrong, wrong, wrong.
Just because some things are scientifically possible doesn't mean they are automatically morally right.
Perhaps the most idiotic active thread going.
This is at BEST a philosophical exercise - if you are a 10 cell blastocyst, do you feel pain?
If you live forever cryogenically, does your soul ever get to go to Heaven?
Does God’s Will extend to those born from IVF? Are they yet too fearfully and wonderfully made? Are they known from before they were in the womb?
Bottom line - put your other blastocysts up for adoption. Believe me, there will be takers.
As for my son, born from IVF, I better break the news to him that he’s an abomination before God. I’m going to miss him.
The original experimental endocrinologist was God. Abraham and Sarah had Isaac when Sarah was very, very old. John the Baptist was born of Elizabeth, who was barren. Dad was struck mute when he questioned God about the matter.
Jesus was born from Mary, for Heaven’s sake (actually, for our sake).
Then gentiles are basically ADOPTED. The Jews are God’s Chosen People. The rest were adopted through Christ.
If you produce blastocysts for research purposes, I’ll wager you’ll have to answer for that. For the rest of us that actually went in with a plan, I think we’ll be OK.
As for those families that will adopt an embryo, have it not take, and be broken-hearted about it. Well, words fail as to the utter stupidity of considering that a negative. Having lived it, the OPPORTUNITY is a miracle. If you have a child from that opportunity, then it is miracle upon miracle.
If you are called to parenthood, much the same way that you are called to Holy Orders, then you pray as if it were up to God, and you work as if it were up to you.
After all, the prayer asks, “Thy will be done on Earth as in Heaven.” God could have said, “No.”
“God may or may not have created limbo so man, always eager to improve on God’s work, created it.”
Is Limbo and purgatory the same thing?