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The Beginning of the Reformation's End?
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 2/26/10 | Charlotte Hays

Posted on 02/26/2010 7:32:49 PM PST by marshmallow

On a recent evening, about 60 people—ex-Episcopalians, curious Catholics and a smattering of earnest Episcopal priests in clerical collars—gathered downtown for an unusual liturgy: It was Evensong and Benediction, sung according to the Book of Divine Worship, an Anglican Use liturgical book still being prepared in Rome.

Beautiful evensongs are a signature of Protestant Episcopal worship. Benediction, which consists of hymns, canticles or litanies before the consecrated host on the altar, is a Catholic devotion. We were getting a blend of both at St. Mary Mother of God Church, lent for the occasion.

One former Episcopalian present confessed to having to choke back tears as the first plainsong strains of "Humbly I Adore Thee," the Anglican version of a hymn by St. Thomas Aquinas, floated down from the organ in the balcony. A convert to Catholicism, she could not believe she was sitting in a Catholic Church, hearing the words of her Anglican girlhood—and as part of an authorized, Roman Catholic liturgy.

And that was not the only miracle. Although the texts had been carefully vetted in Rome for theological points, the words being sung were written by Thomas Cranmer, King Henry VIII's architect of the English Reformation. "He remembering his mercy hath holpen his servant Israel," the congregation chanted, "as he promised to our forefathers, Abraham and his seed for ever."

The language of this translation of the Magnificat, one of Christianity's two great evening canticles, is unfamiliar to many Episcopalians today, as it comes from earlier versions of their Book of Common Prayer. Yet a number of former Anglicans are eager to carry some of this liturgy with them when they swim the Tiber, as Episcopalians becoming Catholic often call the conversion. "I wonder why the phrase 'and there is no health in us' was omitted from the...................

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1 posted on 02/26/2010 7:32:49 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

The faster the Protestant Revolution ends the sooner there will be a return to reason (as well as to the Faith).


2 posted on 02/26/2010 7:37:54 PM PST by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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3 posted on 02/26/2010 7:44:45 PM PST by GOP_Lady
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To: vladimir998

Catholicism is built on absorbing and adapting the religions around it to attract customers, starting from the pagan traditions of Rome. This is just more of the same shameless malleability.


4 posted on 02/26/2010 7:45:06 PM PST by Anti-Utopian ("Come, let's away to prison; We two alone will sing like birds I' th' cage." -King Lear [V,iii,6-8])
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To: Anti-Utopian
Catholicism is built on absorbing and adapting the religions around it to attract customers,

This is just a misunderstanding of St. Paul. Catholicism is the practice of the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Catholicism is built on absorbing and adapting the religions around it to attract customers,

Leave St. Paul out of this. There is no difference between traditional Christianity and Catholicism. Except in the minds of the Reformers and their descendents.

5 posted on 02/26/2010 7:50:12 PM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Anti-Utopian

You wrote:

“Catholicism is built on absorbing and adapting the religions around it to attract customers, starting from the pagan traditions of Rome.”

That’s a crock. Catholicism destroyed ancient paganism. Where are the believers in Zeus or Jupiter now? Where are the believers in Mithras? Those pagan religions were all destroyed not adapted.

“This is just more of the same shameless malleability.”

It’s better than your shameless make believe.


6 posted on 02/26/2010 7:50:49 PM PST by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: vladimir998
The faster the Protestant Revolution ends the sooner there will be a return to reason (as well as to the Faith)

Oh man, are you ever so wrong in that statement. The Protestant Reformation is what brought sanity into the world that had been locked in hundreds of years of death at the hands of the Catholic Church. Have you ever read Foxes Book of Martyrs and how many people they put to death?

Please, spare me.

7 posted on 02/26/2010 7:53:26 PM PST by pctech
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To: vladimir998

How dare you.


8 posted on 02/26/2010 7:54:45 PM PST by irishtenor (Beer. God's way of making sure the Irish don't take over the world.)
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To: pctech

ROFL!!


9 posted on 02/26/2010 7:54:55 PM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: pctech

He has read. Caring is another matter:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2447091/posts?page=83#83


10 posted on 02/26/2010 7:59:23 PM PST by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: vladimir998
It's never going to end. Some go back to the Roman church, but others discover a new faith and renew the Protestant churches. There many of us who still believe in five solas.
11 posted on 02/26/2010 8:02:26 PM PST by GAB-1955 (I write books, love my wife, serve my nation, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: vladimir998
Where are the believers in Zeus or Jupiter now?

Like the Romans did to the pantheon of the Greeks, and the Greeks did to the pantheon of the Egyptians, Catholics simply changed the names. Now Zeus and Jupiter are "Patron Saints," in charge of their own little portfolios like weather or childbirth.

12 posted on 02/26/2010 8:08:35 PM PST by Anti-Utopian ("Come, let's away to prison; We two alone will sing like birds I' th' cage." -King Lear [V,iii,6-8])
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To: vladimir998

I don’t think the Papists can stamp out Christianity no matter how many inquisitions they have.


13 posted on 02/26/2010 8:13:26 PM PST by Tramonto (Live Free or Die)
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To: GAB-1955
The Reformation cannot last. By it's very nature it is self-defeating. The Reformation is not a single event in history. It is an ongoing event and leads to other, smaller "reformations" every day. This in turn leads to an inexorable splintering of the Protestant confession as branches beget more branches which in turn splinter again. Look around you. Do you even know what some of these Protestant offshoots profess?

In short, it is a process which is tending towards chaos and fragmentation and that cannot continue indefinitely.

14 posted on 02/26/2010 8:14:28 PM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: marshmallow

Brian Moynahan in his minumental “the Faith” noted how importand the falling-off of England was to the success of the Reformation. He says — I paraphrase from memory — that had England remained Catholic the Protestantism would have been another quaint German invention, like Kantian philosophy or porcelain figurines. England, however, gave Protestantism a global reach, especially as she planted it, a century later, in the United States and built an empire that spanned the Third World.

I firmly believe that this century will be the century of re-gathering, as the churches that retained a kernel of Orthodox patrimony, the Church of England, and some Lutherans, as well as of course the Eastern Orthodox, find their ancestral home in communion with the Catholic Church.

Diverse Evangelical communities of faith will follow their diverse paths, and most likely they will scatter further.

The fulcrum of Christianity is coming, once again, to Rome.


15 posted on 02/26/2010 8:18:24 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: marshmallow

It is based on scripture, that WILL last. Individual denominations come and go, but the word continues. That is why Wycliffe & Tyndale wanted to get it into the hands of commoners.


16 posted on 02/26/2010 8:20:12 PM PST by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: marshmallow
Father Bergman says he began his journey to the Catholic Church by thinking about something that has taken many liberal Catholics out of the church: contraception. He regards Anglicanism's 1930 embrace of contraception as a mistake: "Out of that came a confusion about the roles of men and women, a theology of androgyny," he says.

Father Bergman and his wife, Kristina, have six children.

Every liberal Catholic should read this and weep. As Humanae Vitae has the last laugh.

17 posted on 02/26/2010 8:23:30 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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minumental

Not a bad word, is it?

18 posted on 02/26/2010 8:24:53 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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19 posted on 02/26/2010 8:25:26 PM PST by narses ("lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi")
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To: marshmallow

My browser cannot handle WSJ.com.

Where was this taking place? London? New York?


20 posted on 02/26/2010 8:28:19 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT ("pray without ceasing" - Paul of Tarsus)
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