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This post IS NOT an attack in any way on any of those of the Catholic faith. It is a general discussion and Biblical study of Mary of Nazareth and her person as the Holy Scripture clearly teaches. Be objective and let God the Holy Spirit and His infallible Word speak to your hearts! As an ex Catholic raised and taught as I started to study and read the Holy Scriptures for my self I saw that the Word of God barley mentions Mary and what it does was a contradiction to all that I was taught as a young Catholic.

Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. St. John 16:13

1 posted on 02/25/2010 2:31:11 PM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman
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2 posted on 02/25/2010 2:32:22 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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Oh, here we go again.


4 posted on 02/25/2010 2:59:59 PM PST by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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You wrote:

“In this study we will seek to look at EVERY Bible verse found in the Holy Scriptures that pertains to Mary of Nazareth.”

I seriously doubt that.

It is also clear that the entire “Introduction” is a slam against Catholics.

Then you made the usual errors in exegesis:

“These passages reveal that Mary was a sinner in need of a Savior!”

No. Mary had a Savior - and He saved her from sinning. The verse about Mary’s sacrifice shows she did what was expected - not that she did what was needed because of supposed sinfulness.

“There are distinctions given by the Gospel writers (2 Peter 1:20-21) that reveal Mary as the mother of Jesus’ human nature, but again the term “mother” was never used by Jesus when addressing Mary. We have absolutely NO record of that.”

“When Jesus saw his mother, and the disciple whom he loved standing near, he said to his mother, ‘Woman, behold, your son!’. Then he said to the disciple, ‘Behold, your mother!’” (Jn 19:26-27).

The Holy Spirit calls Mary Jesus’ mother.

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5 posted on 02/25/2010 3:11:20 PM PST by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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Mary is amazing! Blessed!

Just not co-redemptrix. But it’s sad that just because of Catholic idolatry, Protestant Christians have a tendency to outright diminish her significance. It does Christianity a huge disservice to dismiss her.


6 posted on 02/25/2010 3:14:19 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege ("When I survey the wondrous cross...")
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Come to think of it, you make so many errors it would literally take hours to post all that is necessary. I’ll just do this instead: Go to this page http://www.cin.org/cinmateo.html and look down the list to “Mary”. There you’ll find gems like this:

Father Mateo Archives, February 18, 1994, Mary’s Sin Offering at Presentation

Nancy’s message reminded me of a verse many Protestants use to support Mary’s sinful nature. When Mary goes to the Temple in Luke 2, she makes a sin offering of the two doves in accordance with Jewish Law. I have always answered this that it is a tribute to her sinLESSness that she obeyed the Jewish law requiring her to do so even though she was not subject to it. Could you comment on both my response and the Protestant argument? Do you know of any other explanations for this action of Our Lady? Thank you, and God bless you in your continued good work, Father.

Dear Jeff,

Your response was right on. It is truly necessary to take Protestant objectors through the relevant Scriptures supporting our doctrines. Logic alone, history alone will not carry the conviction of Scripture. If we haven’t the chapters and verses at our fingertips, we must offer to look them up. For this a good concordance is necessary.

In Luke 2:24, Mary makes the sin-offering commanded in Leviticus 12:6-8. (The context is verses 1-8.) She did this, not because she was guilty of moral failing in having conceived and borne a child, but because she and Joseph were faithful observers of the Mosaic Law (Luke 2:23,24,39). They did what the Law commanded.

Temple sin-offerings never implied moral guilt, but were sacrifices made to expunge legal and ritual uncleanness. This is very evident, not only from Leviticus 12:1-8, but even more from Leviticus 15, where involuntary emissions, menstruation, hemorrhaging, and sexual intercourse produce ritual uncleanness, some of which requires the making of sin-offerings.

Leviticus clearly distinguishes sin-offerings (which did not imply moral guilt) from guilt offerings (which did imply actual sinfulness). The former are discussed in 6:17-23, the latter in 7:1-6. The distinction is reaffirmed in 7:7 and in Ezekiel 40:39.

In Ezekiel 43:18-27, directions are given for purifying the altar and making atonement for it. Verses 19, 21, 22 and 25 call for sin-offerings on behalf of the altar. Of course, an altar can be ritually unclean, but it cannot be guilty of moral guilt. Yet “sin” offering was made for it!

An example of guilt-offering being made to atone for actual moral failures is found in Ezra 10:10,19. The people’s sin was in taking foreign wives in violation of the Mosaic Law (Deuteronomy 7:3). For this, they were truly guilty.

Thank you for your message. I hope you will continue in your zeal to pray for others and help them to see the truth.

Sincerely in Christ,
Father Mateo


8 posted on 02/25/2010 3:17:10 PM PST by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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Thank you, finally, a factual account of the life of Mary that is in perfect harmony with the scriptures.


9 posted on 02/25/2010 3:19:42 PM PST by pctech
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“Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” Matthew 7:21-23

What is, “...the will of my Father which is in heaven...”?

Clearly it is not this list of works these deluded souls list out to the Lord in an attempt to justify themselves. But if not, then what IS it? Jesus tell us in John 6:29.
“This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.” This is the much hated doctrine of justification by faith alone as taught by the Lord Himself.

Note that those who list out their works of piety are damned, not having believed the Gospel even though they are very actively ‘Christian’ and very religious, no doubt.

But Christ tells us that when we have done all that we should do, the best we can say about ourselves is that we are unprofitable servants. Note how different the attitude is from these false Christians in Matthew 7 who boast of their works.

Matthew 7:21-23 describes all Roman Catholicism and most Protestantism. Hell will be full of very religious people.


18 posted on 02/25/2010 3:54:45 PM PST by vigilo
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Thank you for posting this. Mary was an amazing, courageous young woman! She was so blessed! I can’t wait until I get to heaven and get to meet her.


19 posted on 02/25/2010 3:57:25 PM PST by T Minus Four (I already have a Savior. It's a President I'm looking for.)
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31 posted on 02/26/2010 6:47:50 PM PST by narses ("lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi")
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