Posted on 02/14/2010 6:38:08 AM PST by NYer
Yes, even the Protestants follow tradition.
Just a thought which I’m not interested in debating... equating the tradition of the Protestant’s 10 commandments to the myriad traditions of the Catholic church seems like quite a stretch.
Protestant have a myriad of traditions.
The 10 Commandments convict. We are under Grace. The 10 Commandments are for the unsaved. If you are Saved, you are under God’s Grace. You don’t need the 10 Commandments.
But Protestants don’t put tradition on equal footing with scripture. And if there is a disagreement between scripture and our tradition, we ditch the tradition.
We were discussing this at Troah Study on Friday morning. I wondered whether it was on RAMBAM's (Maimonades) list of 613 Commandments, so we looked it up. It is the FIRST ONE! (and emphasized as such in his Mishna Torah, which is the source we consulted)
ML/NJ
The 10 Commandments convict. We are under Grace. The 10 Commandments are for the unsaved. If you are Saved, you are under God’s Grace. You don’t need the 10 Commandments.What do YOU say? Are they Ten Commandments? Or just suggestions for some?
This seems like nothing more than to pit one denomination against the other.
To make or allow someone to feel superior than another.
God much rather wants obedience over sacrifice. In fact, without obedience God doesn't want our sacrifices.
Arguing about the order takes away our true focus of obedience.
Are you saying you covet wives and don’t honor the sabbath?
” And if there is a disagreement between scripture and our tradition, we ditch the tradition.”
Like the way many Protestants have ditched that whole gay thing? (Page Vickie Eugene Robinson.) Or that Divorce thing? How about that women preaching thing? Contraception? Hmmmm.
If we could only know what the other five were, maybe there wouldn’t be so much trouble in the world.
The law CONDEMNS the unsaved.
The law CONVICTS the saved.
The moment JUST ONE Catholic divorces or is gay or fails to use contraception YOUR ENTIRE argument fails.
I believe Ted Kennedy was Catholic. What happened to his stand on fidelity or abortion? I guess "tradition" (Let alone obedience)means nothing to Catholics.
OK, I’ll narrow my defense to Southern Baptists, since many of the traditional Protestant denominations have been corrupted/infiltrated.
vs 3
Enjoins that God must be known and acknowledged to be the only true God, and our God; and, to worship him and to make him known as he has been made known to us.
Forbids not worshiping and glorifying the true God as God, and as our God; and forbids giving worship and glory to any other, which is due to him alone.
vs 4–6
Requires receiving, observing, and keeping pure and entire, all such religious worship and ordinances as God has appointed; and zeal in resisting those who would corrupt worship; because of God's ownership of us, and interest in our salvation.
Prohibits the worshiping of God by images, or by confusion of any creature with God, or any other way not appointed in his Word. (According to the traditional presbyterian and reformed view, this commandment also prohibits any man-made inventions to worship, which formed a basis for their criticism of Roman Catholic liturgies.)
vs 7
Enjoins a holy and a reverent use of God’s names, titles, attributes, ordinances, Word, and works.
Forbids all abuse of anything by which God makes Himself known. Some Protestants, especially in the tradition of pacifism, read this Commandment as forbidding any and all oaths, including judicial oaths and oaths of allegiance to a government, noting that human weakness cannot foretell whether such oaths will in fact be vain.
vs 8–11
Requires setting apart to God such set times as are appointed in his Word. Many Protestants are increasingly concerned that the values of the marketplace do not dominate entirely, and deprive people of leisure and energy needed for worship, for the creation of civilized culture. The setting of time apart from and free from the demands of commerce is one of the foundations of a decent human society.
Forbids the omission, or careless performance, of the religious duties, using the day for idleness, or for doing that which is in itself sinful; and prohibits requiring of others any such omission, or transgression, on the designated day.
vs 12
The only commandment with explicitly positive content, rather than a prohibition; it connects all of the temporal blessings of God, with reverence for and obedience to authority, and especially for father and mother.
Forbids doing anything against, or failing to give, the honor and duty which belongs to anyone, whether because they possess authority or because they are subject to authority.
vs 13
Requires all lawful endeavors to preserve our own life, and the life of others.
Forbids taking away of our own life, or the life of our neighbor, unjustly (Just taking of life includes self-defense, executions by the magistrate and times of war.); and, anything that tends toward depriving life. By extension it condemns even verbal abuse and anger, as exmplified by Christ's interpretation in the sermon on the mount.
vs 14
Enjoins protection of our own and our neighbor’s chastity, in heart, speech, and behavior.
Forbids all unchaste thoughts, words, and actions.
vs 15
Requires a defense of all lawful things that further the wealth and outward estate of ourselves and others.
Prohibits whatever deprives our neighbor, or ourselves, of lawfully gained wealth or outward estate.
vs 16
Requires the maintaining and promoting of truth between people, and of our neighbor’s good name and our own, especially in witness-bearing.
Forbids whatsoever is prejudicial to truth, or injurious to our own, or our neighbor’s, good name.
vs 17
Enjoins contentment with our own condition, and a charitable attitude toward our neighbor and all that is his, being thankful for his sake that he has whatever is beneficial to him, as we are for those things that benefit us.
Forbids discontent or envy, prohibits any grief over the betterment of our neighbor's estate, and all inordinate desires to obtain for ourselves, or scheming to wrest for our benefit, anything that is his.
Jesus fulfilled our punishment for violating the Ten Commandments...
More likely that one follows the original translation of "thous shall not murder." God has surely commanded a lot of killing for His purpose.
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